"If so, then why does a person assigned at birth as a male but who identifies as a female need to remove the penis? Why does a person assigned at birth as a female but who identifies as a male need to add a penis? If a “woman” or a “man” is whatever anyone claims as their identity based on internal beliefs and feelings instead of external equipment—as one online influencer told Walsh, “Some people are boys, some people are girls, some are both, some are neither. Gender is all about how you feel on the inside and how you express yourself.”—then why would anyone put themselves through the ordeal of transitioning?" what a lack of understanding of the motivations behind transitioning, of the concept of dysphoria / struggling with the stark contrast between self-perception and appearances / the way you're treated. why would a skinny teen with dreams of becoming a bodybuilder ever want to exercise and build muscle? why would a married woman who wants to have an affair take off her wedding ring at a bar? this is the crucial misunderstanding that so many people fail to even realize they're making - to be a woman is to be treated like a woman, to be a man is to be treated like a man. we define what it is to be a particular gender through our behavior and our expectations, not through some collection of meat. why is a graceful ship on the water called she? why is a deeply pitched computer generated voice perceived as a man's? because we associate these characteristics to them. why is a mother-in-law a go-to person that comedians joke about not wanting to talk to? all it is is the mother of your spouse, there's nothing inherently bad about that, right? the entire trans "debate" relies on the confusion between what is real and what is bestowed on real things by our behavior. sure, you can say that a woman is a vaginahaver and a man is a penishaver - but are you gonna say to little David "hold on, sport, let's see your cock before you can go play with the boys"? no - you hear the name, you see the clothes, you perceive all the things that we associate with the category "boy", and you let him play and live his life but not for long! if these trannytrackers win the """"debate"""", soon we will all be reduced to meat
everybody born after 9/11 has grown up in a time where change is impossible because this is the best the world will ever be - government is the thing where people older than your grandparents sit on their hands and forget what day it is, mass media is the thing that shows people your parents' age things from their childhood so they can clap their hands when they recognize darth vader, and the only outlet and place you can be free is the internet, which is 90 percent corporate-made skinner box shit at this point, and also the only thing you've heard from birth is that the world is gonna end in 20 years if we don't do something, and it's 20 years later and nobody seems to have done much the attitude of the times is "it's too late; and if it isn't too late, you will never be able to do anything about it" - instead of whipping yourself about how you've ruined your kids or jerking off over how good of a parent you are, help make the world a better place or step aside
i think that jokes about a discriminated minority should primarily be funny to that minority more than any general audience. i think that jokes about a discriminated minority that are designed to be funny to a general audience, but not to that minority, are not jokes that work. trans people take these jokes seriously because they aren't funny to trans people. it's hard to not take something seriously when it's not funny to you. i want to repeat that i'm not insulted by the jokes in the special, they just make me sad. i think that these kinds of jokes don't help the community and just add onto the pile of cultural messaging against trans people. i think that this is the new battlefield of the culture war, and that trans people who react negatively to this special will continue to become targets. when you say "why is it being taken so seriously," this is why. comedy doesn't just float in the air - comedy is powerful. comedy can be used to reinforce certain attitudes, or undermine them. comedy and politics are connected to each other. you can be a carlin-type of comedian and use comedy to show how society is rigged for the powerful, or you can be the kind of comedian that uses comedy to reinforce existing stereotypes. i do not feel liberated by chappelle's humor about trans people. i do not welcome his takes on trans people. again, if i was to get up on stage and postulate about The Black Experience In America, i would fully expect to be reamed for it because i don't know what i'm talking about. when i hear dave's jokes about trans people, it is very clear that he doesn't know what he's talking about. i don't want to censor comedy. i don't want to "cancel" anybody. it's very clear that the trans community at large is unable to cancel anybody, given that chappelle and ricky gervais and the like all still have careers. they can continue to make hacky jokes at my expense for as long as they want to for all i care. i just don't see why i have to pretend that it's all in good fun, and to lighten up - it's the standup comedian version of "boys will be boys" - he snapped your bra strap in front of your friends, but it's because he likes you, so just let him do it - it was just a joke i will never be a model minority that puts up with being mocked, no matter whether you think that makes me a killjoy.
i think there's something to be said for how black and white lgbt people have different experiences - every trans person faces discrimination to some extent, but black trans people are much more likely to be in physical danger. black trans women are murdered constantly. if dave is envious of the trans rights movement for how whiteness has given them a headstart, i think he is unaware of the situation on the ground. transness isn't like a region-locked DVD - trans people are all over the world and in every community. you could have a conversation about intersectionality through comedy, but i have gotten no impression that that's what dave is doing. transness is as black as it is white, and dave implying that it's something that black people don't participate in is plainly wrong. any exasperation that dave might feel about trans people is about as valid as the exasperation that trump voters feel when they hear about mexicans coming over the border to take american jobs - it comes from a genuine place, but that doesn't make it correct. it's misinformed and driven by his attitude (conscious or subconscious) towards trans people
chappelle's jokes about trans people are unfunny and inaccurate - they're unfunny because they're inaccurate. being trans is a comedy in a society that is based around two genders - you are this un-man un-woman flitting around the boundaries of acceptability, simultaneous dyke-faggot. that's a funny concept because there are so many situations that are awkward and uncomfortable for you chappelle conflates biological sex and gender, like a lot of people do, and seems to think of transness and gayness as a white thing - some kind of weird perversion - this despite using the suicide of a trans comedian as a shield for his lame-ass bits https://www.gq.com/story/chappelle-the-closer the thing that gets lost in the endless complaining about cancel culture is that the only people who have lost their jobs in the trans panic are trans people - the one lady at netflix who got fired, the people that jk rowling sued for calling her a "terf" (chappelle is "team terf" now in his own words) i feel less insulted by the special than saddened and disgusted. it's predictable that this kind of discourse comes from it, and it's predictable that ecib, mk, and you can come together in a circle about it and say that people are being so silly for not liking it, and that dave is speaking from the heart jokes about trans people that are based around them being stitched-up abominations doing woman-blackface aren't funny because they don't reflect any of the experience of being trans - and if i, a paleface honky tranny, were to get up on stage talking about how i'm on team blue lives matter and that black people should just settle down, it wouldn't matter if i namedropped a black friend and voted for obama or whatever, people would recognize that it's not funnyNow, I am not saying that to say trans women aren’t women, I am just saying that those pussies that they got… you know what I mean? I’m not saying it’s not pussy, but it’s Beyond Pussy or Impossible Pussy. It tastes like pussy, but that’s not quite what it is, is it? That’s not blood. That’s beet juice.
tags straight up don't work without enough people to codify what each one means and every time i use tags i feel like i'm shouting into the void following people only works when there are enough people using the site enough to justify looking at the feed instead of just looking at global - there's what, like 10 posts a day? hubski as of right now is a hangout spot for the stevegang and their friends plus a couple other people that's open to the internet at large instead of being like a mailing list on some server somewhere nothing needs to change about hubski if the current track is the way you want things to be, first you need a ton more people to use the site even like 50 new posters? a hundred? maybe then it'll be worth it to change up the features, but not now, as of right now about half the features of the site could disappear and nothing would change about the way i use it - i use global chatter and /chat and between both of those things i catch near everything what's going on the site is your baby so it's yours to do what you want with it but i think this is silly
then i think your first priority should be to attract people to the site and not fiddle around with the deck chairs on the titanic so to speak sometimes i question why I'm here now that pabs is gone and galen never posts anymore, spoons is gone, SBG is mostly gone - my cohort on the site is gone and when i come on here there are fewer and fewer people i feel like i can relate to i think the problem of muting and moderation has sucked up too much oxygen on here when both can be solved with a larger userbase and the current system of filtering/mutes like.little hubble bubbles on the spokes of the hubwheel fibonacci hootenanny, small communities lead to segregation and less friction i don't know, i just know that the community is why I'm here and not the features of the site and i don't feel like i fit in with the users here and maybe that's just on me
the year has begun wonderfully now going by new name and pronouns openly (with the only people not knowing are the ones it hasn't come up yet around them with): parents also like the new name (my mum and i teared up together talking about it) and trying their darndest to use em - it's amazing how much weight is off my back already 3 days into the new semester and I'm feeling good about academics so far, things are more interesting so far at least so we'll see how it goes i went on a bountiful shopping trip and finally found some comfy tank tops among other purdy things gonna start hitting the gym again this weekend / upon getting a feel for how the flow of each week will go / when the january crowd eases slightly also gonna make a bunch of phone calls for haircut / piercing / therapy appointments to get the ball rolling on all of that updates pending
who gives a shit about edam applesauce or any magazine or newspaper in the year 2020 there are about two things in the world that don't suck and eggs is one of them, ok, eggs sustain me i will eat an egg whoever or however puts it in front of me when i make eggs for myself i will only ever do it one way i fry them in butter until the white is mostly set and the yolk is runny, then i salt and pepper them this is the only way i cook eggs when eggs aren't just a single component in something i know exactly how long it takes and how hot the nburner should be and how.much butter because i only do it one way who needs a recipe for an omelet eggs are like the cheapest food ever and even when they get all fucked up they're still at least edible people who write recipes or guides for eggs are stupid motherfuckers almost universally just cook the egg until it's the way you want it to be i will punch anybody! don't fight me! I'll cry!
covid has changed friendship in the sense that i lost all tertiary friends - those friends that you have in one context but not others, work or school or the people you happen to pass by and wave to, and it turns out not much was left my social circle is my boyfriend, my roommate, and my parents with special sister guest star - everything else has been torched
The Past i don't remember most of my life. december 2017 ~ january 2018 is when i start remembering things better - everything before that is blurry or gone other than scattered little bits, which makes it easy to summarize i don't remember anything before 2012 other than being a little kid or being sad in 2013 and 2014 i went online, participated in and learned about the outside world, and got scared i would never leave my parents otherwise, so i crammed everything i wasn't taught before and started high school in 2015 i lost about 30-40 pounds before realizing that i hated how i looked because male wasn't right for me in 2016 i kinda became a stalker, things really went to shit; in 2017 i went to 3 therapists and had a breakdown that was impressive enough for my parents to believe that i actually needed help and wasn't just a lazy piece of shit therefore 2018, the year i start antidepressants and medically transitioning, make my first real-world friends, move out to university, begin (and end) real relationships w/ people, have enough time between the crazy to be a human being - that's the year my life really started, i feel like. so i'm okay with everything before that slipping away from me, because i have no reason to remember much in the first place. 2018 was my first normal year, and 2019 was my second, and lots of things happened in them, and they were wonderful The Present and Future heck of a lot more fun, let's talk about the next decade in 2020 my biggest goal is living openly as the right gender - i'm not sure i'll ever be ready, but at this point i think i'm strong enough to take whatever happens. to that end, i'm changing my name, dressing in things that don't hide my body (AKA not just hoodies and pajamas), and the scariest thing is asking people to call me she, but i'm gonna do that too. two other big goals: finally getting a driver's license and getting an internship with a translation company some small things: i got my ears pierced this spring and i think once winter break ends in a week i'm going to get a septum piercing and shave my hair down short i have a boyfriend again - we exchanged "i love you"'s about 2 months into meeting each other, and i'm okay with not secondguessing things - no more rejecting honest emotion, right? i'm 20 years old with no life experience and i'm in love, and however long that lasts i'm going to enjoy it; i was chatting to galen about him a while ago so as a fellow tiny child he can vouch for me i'm on the hunt for a new job which will ideally not involve terrible management so wish me luck i've been reading the new testament for the last week or so and studying the early history of christianity - it's interesting, and somehow it's helping me get my thoughts and emotions organized. i'll let you know whether or not i find god anyway i'm done rambling: cheers for a better decade everybody regards, katherine
roughly 3 days after posting "i'll be moving out in 3 weeks and hopefully sooner" i moved out the apartment is lovely and i've finally finished cleaning it out, organizing things, washing the whole dang kitchen (which was very neglected by 3 4-year generations of college student boys), and moving my stuff in everything's coming up milhouse
hi hübsch - i just keep on living eh? decided that i should skitter back in here for a while i went to japan for a language program over the summer, gonna be able to graduate in 3 years now (so that's nice). i'd love to head back but i'm not sure i want to live there enough to be an eternal honkyjin relationship number 1 worked out for a yearish but we grew apart, which is a shame, but it happens - Boy the Second has been found and is very sweet so i guess you can't gain without loss i got a job in september, thinking about quitting - having money is nice but the bosses and scheduling practices are miserable - i'm taking 18 credits like a dickweed as well so that was a mistake speaking of mistakes, i tried to go off my antidepressants and boy oh boy that was an extended nightmare- i'm back on but those fellas take time to take effect so i'm still sitting sad, but i guess it was worth a try despite being a horrible failure i lost about 15 pounds while i was in japan (thanks, campus gym and limited groceries) but i gained at least 10 of em back (thanks dominos 2-topping medium pizzas for 5.99 each), but at least a little chunk of that might be muscle or at least better-placed fat than before because i kept up the gymgoing here before i got kicked in the dick with the whole can't-get-out-of-bed thing right now i'm sleeping a lot and trying to find lots of opportunities to laugh, otherwise i don't have much in me. love to you all.
i am: in college making friends + meeting people doing well in classes feeling happy and confident, about myself and the things i'm doing i have: gone on a date with somebody (verdict: just friends) gone to my first futbawl game (verdict: the student section is fun, but standing for 3 hours on concrete makes my feet hurt) got invited to a linguistics research lab thing by a professor (verdict: very excited - first meeting on friday) Thoughts This is the happiest (and most consistently happy) that I can remember being, if not ever, then for a long time. I see no reason for things to get worse, and a lot of reasons for things to get better in the next little bit / the future. (it's amazing how much easier things are when you consistently have energy and don't hate yourself) Life is goodski.
all classes at my university have been canceled starting noon today - everybody's been told to go home, classes now online only so that's gonna change my next couple months a little bit have a syntax class poem (made from example sentences on the board talking abt semantic role assignment + one of my own) john might have been seeing stars john might have been falling john might have been dying john might have been receiving coded messages john might have been a rat! good luck in not catching coronavirus everybody - today has been really surreal now that it's closer to homejohn might have been watching tv
hallo huebsch things are continuing to go well - i had a lovely friday-saturday-sunday visiting my parents with my boyfriend. we had a little super bowl party and feasted on texmex abominations that would have made mr. bl00 cry - anyway it was the first time they had met and it went well: my mom said he was sweet and welcome back anytime, my dad said he seemed like a good guy (but quiet) - it'll take some time but i have every reason to be optimistic :) anyway, hope you all had another good week
What a great way of introducing yourself to the community - a copypasta-worthy boasting rant about your own intelligence. You might as well just start over.
last night i went to my second-to-last therapy visit and i said to her "you know, this is a lot easier now that everything is going so well - i barely have anything to talk about" and everything really is going quite well it's been about 4&1/4 months since i started medically transitioning and i'm reaching the point where more often than not i like the way that i look i just looked back on the post i made here when i said "i came out to my mother, she was accepting" - i said that in november 2015 and i'm sorry to report that that was a judgement made far too soon because as soon as my dad got to her that acceptance didn't last - it took me 5 months after that to finally go to a therapist and a long chain of bullshit before (last october!) i finally got to a therapist that actually took me at my word that yes, i really am sure, been sure, before things could progress, and that span of time between last october and this march before i could even get an appointment with an endocrinologist because of all the hoops everybody in the goddamn medical community apparently requires and the gist of it is that i've been really, really angry at everyone and everything around me and it's nice to not have to be that anymore it wasn't a great time for a while there for that and a bucket of other reasons but the REAL gist of is that now i can use the past tense for practically the whole bucket and it's a beautiful day
hi lil i've been quatrarius for 1486 days, but i've been alive for roughly 7000 (that ratio is fucking with me a little) location: MSU, east lansing, MI right now i'm working on: learnin a second language, going to school, tryin to figure out why i'm not happy now that i have fewer reasons not to be miss all y'all
A significant percentage of people here identify as feminists or, ynno, are female. Or Black, or LGBT, or whatever. Hubski is a place generally free from Men's rights activists or Gamergaters or Stormfront brigades or much of the rest. It's a popular opinion here that organizations devoted to being "anti-SJW" end up as vectors of hate. Isn't it funny how you're using "social justice" as an insult, a term that represents equality between genders, sexualities, and races? Free speech is the right to say what you want, not the right to be free from criticism. More to the point, it's the right to say what you want and not being censored by the government, not private individuals or websites. Calling "free speech!" as a defence is saying that the good thing about your argument is that it's technically not illegal to express. That argument is mocked because it doesn't make sense. All that doesn't mean you can't stay. But you shouldn't expect a MRA circlejerk, and you shouldn't expect to be able to pass without a good argument.
That none of the things posted in this thread will be unpopular on Hubski.
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It's my birthday.
I think that the things that you're discounting are the important factors here. Issues that negatively affect transgender people (bigotry, violence, discrimination. as you said) also affect LGB people and spring from similar causes. It's more of a "stronger together" sort of idea going on. You're right in saying that the specifics aren't the same, but they're similar enough so that it'd make sense to work united on them. (I don't follow the politics of it. These are just my personal thoughts.)
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More and better criticisms than yours have been made, and made, and made again. Lurk more.
Arguments should work out like this: Person 1 and Person 2 disagree on a topic. They both explain why they disagree, citing various pieces of evidence to support their positions. If the argument remains peaceful, one person either changes their mind on the topic or the two people agree to disagree. If not, there's always the chance for drama. Just don't burn bridges. Apologies are good ways of smoothing over past nastiness. If that fails, there's always muting.
I'm still here.