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    We've been struggling with trust issues because a month ago I tried to hide some money from him because I felt like he was watching me too carefully. Nothing to do with drugs or drug money but he doesn't believe that

In my perspective, this is kind of a huge problem. Trust and honesty are like number one In relationships for me so I would probably react similar.

The fact that this has happened more tHan once in a very short time period makes it insanely hard for someone, especially if that person gives you those things, like honesty, that you deny them for selfish reasons.

I know what it's like to be in pain and need pain killers and it's a terrible thing to be going through, so I'm sorry if that is a bit harsh, but I don't think any amount of pain gives you the right to be dishonest with someone you want trust you.

1. Talk to your doctor if you need more meds, if you're earnest and honest about what you need, doctors are usually pretty appeasing. That means telling them you're still in pain and need extra maintenance, not that you need more oxys/morphine(in my case)

2. Be honest with yourself. These dream idea drug setup deals are not ok, will make you feel terrible about yourself, and you will not get what you need.

3. If your guy stays around, be honest with him or don't get upset when he doesn't trust you, that not reasonable or realistic.

I'm sorry if this comment came across a bit negative, I'm just usually the person on the other side of this type of thing.

Remember, everything will turn out ok, one way or another...





xofaith  ·  3373 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Remember, everything will turn out ok, one way or another...

Thanks, no you weren't harsh - you made a lot of sense. I'm trying hard to better myself. Things happen and I don't always consider them big deals. I've lived on my own for 3years and never had to deal with another person so its a huge learning curve.

I feel horrid that I broke his trust like this. I never meant to hide anything. My friend was able to vouch for me saying that I was trying to tell him about the drugs but was super scared, couldn't figure out how to just say it. I owe her one.

Then like just now we were going over some of the money stuff and I was like, "Oh! This came across in my bank account recently." He was ticked off but understood that I didn't just mention X. I explained that it wasnt an attempt to hide it - it was just unimportant to me because of how long ago it happened and that they finally processed the payment recently hence our discussion.

He could at least understand that but would prefer me to think of these things before they post of give a heads up on "oh hey X is happening."

One thing I'm gonna work on is a list of things I think he should know about - financial, personal, health, etc., so that three aren't any secrets. Because, there should NEVER be secrets. I just suck at identifying information that could potentially blow up in my face. IE: The money stuff and even the drug stuff - I wasn't trying to hide it from him. It was blantaly on my phone and he grabbed it to take a picture and I didn't think twice about it.

So when he saw the messages and asked... I had a hard time explaining and he was furious. Didn't believe a thing I said, and that hurt because I finally got the balls to be honest about the struggle given the information he had. If I was really buy drugs or doing sneaky shit for real - it would've been better hidden. But it doesn't matter, I was struggling and hopefully I can figure myself out. I think that list will be helpful.

randomuser  ·  3373 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    One thing I'm gonna work on is a list of things I think he should know about - financial, personal, health, etc., so that three aren't any secrets. Because, there should NEVER be secrets. I just suck at identifying information that could potentially blow up in my face. IE: The money stuff and even the drug stuff - I wasn't trying to hide it from him. It was blantaly on my phone and he grabbed it to take a picture and I didn't think twice about it.

This idea is a good one. Try to remember that whether or not dishonesty is intentional, it hurts just the same. And I think you mentioned another time recently you were a little dishonest, this makes it harder the second time to believe what you say in the heat of the moment. Usually, from my experience, the guy will come around when he calms down.

    Didn't believe a thing I said, and that hurt because I finally got the balls to be honest about the struggle given the information he had. If I was really buy drugs or doing sneaky shit for real - it would've been better hidden.

Dishonesty is never better, and hiding shit sucks. If you are with someone you feel you cannot be honest with, maybe you should reevaluate where you're at. Being honest is much easier and feels much better than not.

What feels "better" about hiding it in your case is that you have a reason to hide these things...he doesn't like them. And being completely open and honest with your partner about things they don't like, agree with, or understand can be incredibly hard. You start to get in the mind state that they'll never accept all of you, and then the longer you put it off, the harder it becomes to be honest about it.

What I think you're starting to realize is that you can't just pick random times to blurt out the things you don't usually mention without getting some kind of backlashy response. The thing is, he will be finding these things out for the first time, whereas you've known you your whole life. You're with you, in your head 24/7. If you don't tell people things the first time they come up for you, you have to find a perfect future moment to bring up the fact that somehow the thing you've been hiding fits into...which is kind of terrible, but is also kind of an art.

    Because, there should NEVER be secrets.

This is the best thing you'll ever put into practice in a relationship. It is insanely relieving.

    I just suck at identifying information that could potentially blow up in my face.

This is a problem everyone has, so don't get to down on it. Sometimes(dramatically understated), in a relationship, you have to actually put yourself in the perspective of:

Would this thing bother me if the shoes were swapped? And knowing your partner well enough to at least make an effort to actively do the things you think/know your partner would want even though you may have to go a tiny bit(also hugely understated at times) out of your own comfort zone.

Remember, it's a partnership. That does not mean it's 50/50 all the time. Sometimes, especially after things like blown up dishonesty happens, you have to pull 80%, really bad shit can happen and sometimes you will have to be the 100% rock(at these times in my life I have to remember how huge of a stubborn ass I can be and I definitely need my rock sometimes because I am not a fully functional person without the other half of my heart that is my partner and the love of my life). But that's your personal choice, and it's an amazing experience to have someone you truly want to share 100% of yourself and your life with, for better or worse :P.

You sound like your head is in the right place though, just keep pushing forwards and the end result will be totally worth the means by which you got there.

xofaith  ·  3373 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    This idea is a good one. Try to remember that whether or not dishonesty is intentional, it hurts just the same. And I think you mentioned another time recently you were a little dishonest, this makes it harder the second time to believe what you say in the heat of the moment. Usually, from my experience, the guy will come around when he calms down.

I emailed him a list of truths. At least 20 different important things about me and any secrets I may have carried throughout my life. Most of it he already knew but I went through everything in my life and tried to think of EVERYTHING important and share it with him and told him if there was something that comes up that I didn't mention its because I sincerely forgot about it. I think it was an action step in the right direction.

    You're with you, in your head 24/7. If you don't tell people things the first time they come up for you, you have to find a perfect future moment to bring up the fact that somehow the thing you've been hiding fits into...which is kind of terrible, but is also kind of an art.

Ya, that was my problem with the drugs. He's willing to work on things and we have a plan to give each other space and detox me off. We leave for Cali so I can be under my parents care on Monday and he flies home Monday night leaving me there. The good news is I'm already down on the drugs. Only taking my prescribed dose yesterday and surviving. Today I plan to take none with the option of taking just one if the pain so warrants it. OR maybe even a half if I can. I'm going to have to go a few days without to make my script last but, I dug my own grave on that one. So, the process has been at least started before I even got to Cali which is good.

Anyway, again thank you for all your time on this and thoughts, you've been nothing but encouraging whereas I had to delete posts on Reddit because people were like, "lying dirty whore" and that served to help no one.

I have my flaws, and I'm sick of being strong, but being strong is something I'm good at so I'll work through these and this even though I have feelings of self-doubt, self-hate, and worthlessness.

randomuser  ·  3364 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Anyway, again thank you for all your time on this and thoughts, you've been nothing but encouraging whereas I had to delete posts on Reddit because people were like, "lying dirty whore" and that served to help no one.

I'm not usually one to go for name calling when I'm not super emotionally involved with the topic, lol. So you're safe from responses like you got on reddit. The thing is, everybody lies, to whom and what is really what makes those lies malicious or bad. It's easy to get away with/overlook most of the things you are dishonest about regularly because they are just kind of part of you. When you choose to be in a relationship with someone else, you have to pay attention to the things that are important to them as far as what you can and can't be morally dishonest about, as well as finding a decent compromise with where you started vs. where they want you to be.