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jleopold  ·  3216 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: February 10, 2016

Holy shit this past week has been weird.

To start, got accepted to a college. It's not my first choice, but it's pretty far up there, especially given how much they are giving me in scholarships.

At the same time (early last week) I was rushing to finish a school newspaper article I got suddenly assigned at the start of the week. I'm not even in the group that normally writes/publishes it, but got assigned through another club I'm in to do a feature on one of my club's projects. The vote of confidence from the people who run the newspaper and my club felt good though, and I think the article turned out well.

Then on my weekend, things got weirder. Tried to go to a party, but ended up driving around with a group of people who I've mostly never talked to before. It was better than nothing, but still a really weird night.

Did shrooms for the first time the next day. That was weird of course. Also just been hearing from really random people throughout the week, who I haven't talked to in months. Then my friends have Valentine's day issues, which I love to give unwarranted advixe for.

So far though, this week's been shit. So have a triple for me, and I hope y'all have better ones.





Cumol  ·  3216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Tell us more about your shroom experience!

Two weeks ago "The Dark Side of the Moon" started in germany cinemas. The movie is based on a book with the same title by Martin Suter.

It described the life of a businessman who stumbles into a group of people living in the forest and his first mushroom trip. I hope that they release a dubbed or subbed version of the movie!

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jleopold  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Tell us more about your shroom experience!

Okay. mk hope this is cool.

I basically had four main types of effects. I'll just kinda go through them, though there was significant overlap. Also, note this was a pretty heavy dose, especially for a first time, and physically it felt like shit. I don't think I've ever felt worse in my life.

1. Hallucinations:

Colors and lights were more intense. I'm glad I was inside and not dealing with the actually Sun. Patterns would shift and move too. I sawa recliner and a lamp shrink until they looked like they belonged in a doll-house. After going to the bathroom, I got distracted by watching my face morph into other people's in the mirror. That was really weird. I'll touch on mirrors again later. Also, movement at the edges of my vision.

2. Time Confusion:

I lost my instinctual concept of time. I had no clue how long a minute was. Every moment felt like it had lasted forever and would last forever. Compounded with this was an assumption that everyone else was on shrooms too, even if I knew they weren't. Unlike with some substances, confusing things just got even more confusing.

If you think about how drunk people can have a hard time sort of finding themselves in space, and then think about that with time, that's what if was like. Like being drunk in time. With the college rush and the way my life was going, knowing "Now is perfectly long enough" was a huge help, and one of the few things from the trip I can say I've tried to apply to my life now.

3. Dissociation:

I was apart from my body. With my trip journal, I was composing, but my body, as a separate entity, was writing it down. Then the mirrors again. They say if you actually saw your clone on the street, you wouldn't them. Well, I saw him in the mirror and didn't. I actually waited for him to move first. I saw myself as everyone else sees me (I think, maybe I wasn't seeing that exactly, given other effects). It was very humbling and a little disconcerting. I mean, I literally did not associate strongly enough with the body I saw to recognize it instantly in the mirror. Mirrors are some scary shit.

4. Empathy:

There's always been some people whose actions I couldn't comprehend. But I went through so many emotions in such a short time during the trip that I ended up recognizing actions and tendacies that I see in others. If there is one big lesson I got from it, anything bordering on religious, it was this. I've never been naturally very empathetic until the trip. It's pretty amazing.

Cumol  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sounds like a good experience overall :) a few comments

The dose. Was it your first experience with psychedelics? Always be careful about the dose, it can get very overwhelming very quickly. The bad physical feeling is something that many people (including me) have trouble with when taking mushrooms. A friend suggested fasting the whole day before eating them. Another option would be to go the chemical route with 4-Aco-DMT, be careful thought as this is a research chemical that hasn't been tested in official studies.

    Mirrors are some scary shit

Scary but interesting. I tend to avoid mirrors unless I feel okay with where I am in the trip and up for an adventure.

Mushrooms are currently my favorite psychedelic. There is a phase about 4 hours after onset where I feel like the most mentally strong version of myself.

Keep in mind that trips are not always fun but you can always learn something out of them.

With time, and increasing amounts of trips over the years one tends to forget the lessons learned. A friend told me that he writes down one thing that he learned from a trip and considers most important.

jleopold  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry about the crazy number of notifications, I kept getting the 502 page, and didn't realize it was actually going through.

This was my first experience with a psychedelic, though I have smoked enough at a time before to get some similar effects at the peak. And I'm always cautious, and use Erowid heavily. Nor was it that large of a dose, around 3.5g, just large for a first time. I did try a thresehold dose earlier, just to be aware of any negative reactions I might have. But they're hard to source here, so it was sort of an all or nothing moment.

Have you ever heard of microdosing? It may be just perfect for you to get that "most mentally strong" version of yourself without the rest of the trip.

For major psychoactive experiences, I always keep a trip journal as it happens. This one ended up pretty crazy, and much much longer than any others, even though I stopped writing regularly after about two hours after effects started.

I think though I can also be held back by my exposure to both psychonautics and the science. I know what sort of things could happen, and I'd love to have a religious-type experience, but I also know it's more my perception that is changing, not reality. While this can help calm me down, it also means what I learn is more about how I react, which makes me skeptical of many things people "learn" while tripping. I don't want to discount their experiences, but at the same time, I cannot fully believe them.

Cumol  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually didn't get any notification for your comment. feels like a #bugski.

I have been playing with the idea of microdosing but I am waiting a little until I find "my way back". I noticed that weed influenced my life waaaay more than I thought it has and the past month I have been recovering. Turns out I very sensitive to weed and I forgot how it feels like to be absolutely sober again.

I have a friend that tried microdosing for a few days and didn't have so much fun but his initial dose of 10ug of LSD might have been too high as he clearly was tripping...

I am also a little careful about doing something like microdosing. What if I like it so much that I want to be in the state all the time?

I have my notebook ready for writing but I don't force myself to write. Sometimes I think about stuff that I thought about in the lab and dissect it a little further and throw crazy ideas at it :)

By learning I mainly mean the things you learn about yourself a maybe some structures that happen around you that you were able to take apart and examine closely.

Religious experience... Depends on how you define such an experience :)

b_b  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I am also a little careful about doing something like microdosing. What if I like it so much that I want to be in the state all the time?

I've never heard of that, but I'd be damn careful about lack of sleep. If you're even a little bit wigged out getting some sleep is pretty difficult, but even you do drift off you'll get some scary real dreams. No thanks!

jleopold  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The doses are supposed to be sub-threshold, and taken in the morning every three or four days, not daily. So, in theory, you shouldn't be be "wiggled out" at all, but all to often, people do stuff like that without proper research, and have something similar to Cumol friend. 10ug sounds pretty high, seems most people do closer to 5ug every three days or so.

Cumol  ·  3215 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am familiar with the protocol and usually they mention starting with 10ug on a weekend day where you have control of what is happening and if it is too high to go down.

Using it to boost creativity for a short period, that might be interesting but I fear a psychological dependence that wasn't observed before at higher doses because you are not tripping balls but 'just' superman in disguise.

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