And now that user has responded to my not namimg him saying that I should have named him when I didn't name him out of respect. What's most funny about it is that he says that we contribute in no way and only harm discussion. I don't know about you Grendel but I haven't seen you make any point that isn't directed toward changing (or at least making people aware of) something that you see is unfair. It's not about hating on feminists. It's about how it has been turned into "men are bad and will hurt you and shame on men for doing the same things we do to them." What I don't get is that if a woman comes on and says stuff about how men are being bigoted towards women it's cool and everyone cheers them on for being so brave. But of a man complains about women being bigots he is immediately ostracized or people just ignore it. I find this double standard astounding. How can someone complain about a double standard and then perpetuate their own double standard. It's quite literally insane. Side note I will still not be relinquishing the persons name or of respect for that person's personal beliefs.