I feel like I'm the only one on the internet who doesn't care lately. I can still watch youtube videos, and I've never commented there nor intend to. It hasn't really changed my experience at all. I have never touched my G+ account and don't really care about it, it could be telling the world I eat poop for all I care right now, and I couldn't be bothered to login and stop it. I only use youtube for clips that get linked, looking up a song here and there, and watching project related instructional videos for around the house type stuff. That's it. Again, I'm not saying I'm FOR it, because like all of you I really don't see the benefit to them doing this. It's just a grab to try and force more people into using G+ and hopefully adopting it more so they can pull some of those revenue streams (people) away from Facebook. But it certainly doesn't seem to make the experience better for anyone who uses youtube. So I get why people are upset, but I also get why Google is doing it. Meanwhile I just really haven't been personally affected by it or had my internet experience altered in anyway whatsoever, so I simply "don't care". I am really surprised how the internet mob has mobilized against Google all of a sudden. I personally enjoy a lot of Google products, and some of their projects are pretty cool, and it seemed that was kind of the common opinion. But now this happens and the torches and pitchforks are in hand, and Google is now "one of them", one of those evil companies out to quash the proles. I've been more in awe of that, than the actual youtube/G+ fiasco itself. I feel like this will all be forgotten by next week, and I'd bet G+ actually picks up a bunch of users, not because of the force, but actual users who develop their profiles and check it out. No matter how much hate they get, I feel it's just temporary. I just don't see the "forced down my throat" sensational crap. I can still watch Youtube videos, and I still don't use G+. What's the big deal!?
For me, I just want to use their apps as tools. I never wanted a Google experience. As handy as it might be that Google knows all about me when I use these tools, I'd rather they not. I want that choice. I want my search results to be less catered to what has been determined to be my tastes. The privacy calamity that has engulfed us all aside, I would use equivalent services in a heartbeat if they didn't require such personal integration.
Same. I use gmail, I like drive... but that's honestly about it. I have an Android phone, that I love, but I don't use Now, or any of that stuff. Hell I turn off GPS and tracking immediately after getting a new phone. I don't like Google apps knowing where I am. I don't comment on youtube or have a channel or anything, so I guess this Youtube/G+ thing doesn't really affect me.For me, I just want to use their apps as tools. I never wanted a Google experience.
You need to write more specific queries, like you did with search engines before Google. Personalization does have some advantages, being able to guess what you're really looking for being one of them. I don't find having to type a few extra words to be a big disadvantage.
You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?I am really surprised how the internet mob has mobilized against Google all of a sudden. I personally enjoy a lot of Google products, and some of their projects are pretty cool, and it seemed that was kind of the common opinion. But now this happens and the torches and pitchforks are in hand, and Google is now "one of them", one of those evil companies out to quash the proles. I've been more in awe of that, than the actual youtube/G+ fiasco itself.
Cute. Since you brought that up, why are you still on the internet then Kleinbl00? I'm sure you deleted all of your social media accounts, stopped using Reddit and Hubski, and threw your cell phone and all digital devices with an internet connection in the trash, right? If you read anything from the Snowden releases, you'd know they are logging what sounds like EVERYTHING. Other than abstaining from the internet entirely, why should I specifically hate Google? When from the sounds of it, anything connected to copper or wireless networks is being pilfered. Also, as I've stated elsewhere on Hubski in the past about this, I've known about the information gathering capabilities of our government for a long time now. There's been plenty of court cases proving it's expansiveness over the years. Snowden just brought it to the spotlight for many who previously would have written it off as conspiracy theory. I'm not happy about it, but again, other than total internet abstinence, why does me not hating Google deserve a snarky response along the lines of "You obviously aren't paying attention"?You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?
Did you see the way you jumped from "I point something out to you" to "you insult me" without passing through anything like justification? Or how "here's why people are mad at Google" from me becomes "why aren't you in a spiderhole in Montana crafting your manifesto?" Lazy. And sloppy. And uncompelling. go ahead and be pissed off, but recognize it's got fuckall to do with me. For the record, it's not like my thoughts on the matter have been particularly guarded. And, for the record, I've demonstrated I know more about this stuff than most people. So the answers to "why aren't you in a spiderhole" are a) I've been aware of the problem for 20 years b) I've been cognizant of the problem for 20 years c) I understand OPSEC d) I understand that at the level of malfeasance I dwell, it's easier to make shit up about me than mine my statements for shit to condemn me. In other words, I have a realistic view of the problem. Which is why this whole Snowden thing has been, for me, an extremely hipsterish event ("I hated Google before it was cool"). They've been logging EVERYTHING since before you were born, sport-o, and I've been taking that into account since universities used SSNs for student IDs. So no - I don't need to "trash my cellphone." I knew PRISM was Total Information Awareness back when they re-hired John Poindexter. But bringing this back to your question (and my answer), "that whole snowden thing" revealed that Google wasn't this ivory tower of "don't be evil" like they've been professing all along. Yeah, they were hardly alone, but everyone already hates Microsoft. Everyone already hates Facebook. And most people already hate Apple. So. "You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?" 'cuz if you hadn't made that connection, you sure didn't have a lot of reason for shitting down my neck for pointing it out. TL;DR - fuck off.
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While I agree with you, I hate the word "cute" used in such context. Every time an honest remark is called "cute", no matter how stupid it may be, I just want to punch you in the face.