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kleinbl00  ·  4029 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why is youtube shoving google plus down our throats?

    I am really surprised how the internet mob has mobilized against Google all of a sudden. I personally enjoy a lot of Google products, and some of their projects are pretty cool, and it seemed that was kind of the common opinion. But now this happens and the torches and pitchforks are in hand, and Google is now "one of them", one of those evil companies out to quash the proles. I've been more in awe of that, than the actual youtube/G+ fiasco itself.

You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?





AlderaanDuran  ·  4029 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?

Cute.

Since you brought that up, why are you still on the internet then Kleinbl00? I'm sure you deleted all of your social media accounts, stopped using Reddit and Hubski, and threw your cell phone and all digital devices with an internet connection in the trash, right? If you read anything from the Snowden releases, you'd know they are logging what sounds like EVERYTHING. Other than abstaining from the internet entirely, why should I specifically hate Google? When from the sounds of it, anything connected to copper or wireless networks is being pilfered.

Also, as I've stated elsewhere on Hubski in the past about this, I've known about the information gathering capabilities of our government for a long time now. There's been plenty of court cases proving it's expansiveness over the years. Snowden just brought it to the spotlight for many who previously would have written it off as conspiracy theory. I'm not happy about it, but again, other than total internet abstinence, why does me not hating Google deserve a snarky response along the lines of "You obviously aren't paying attention"?

kleinbl00  ·  4029 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Did you see the way you jumped from "I point something out to you" to "you insult me" without passing through anything like justification? Or how "here's why people are mad at Google" from me becomes "why aren't you in a spiderhole in Montana crafting your manifesto?"

Lazy. And sloppy. And uncompelling. go ahead and be pissed off, but recognize it's got fuckall to do with me.

For the record, it's not like my thoughts on the matter have been particularly guarded. And, for the record, I've demonstrated I know more about this stuff than most people. So the answers to "why aren't you in a spiderhole" are

a) I've been aware of the problem for 20 years

b) I've been cognizant of the problem for 20 years

c) I understand OPSEC

d) I understand that at the level of malfeasance I dwell, it's easier to make shit up about me than mine my statements for shit to condemn me.

In other words, I have a realistic view of the problem. Which is why this whole Snowden thing has been, for me, an extremely hipsterish event ("I hated Google before it was cool"). They've been logging EVERYTHING since before you were born, sport-o, and I've been taking that into account since universities used SSNs for student IDs. So no - I don't need to "trash my cellphone." I knew PRISM was Total Information Awareness back when they re-hired John Poindexter.

But bringing this back to your question (and my answer), "that whole snowden thing" revealed that Google wasn't this ivory tower of "don't be evil" like they've been professing all along. Yeah, they were hardly alone, but everyone already hates Microsoft. Everyone already hates Facebook. And most people already hate Apple.

So.

"You missed that whole Snowden thing, didn't you?"

'cuz if you hadn't made that connection, you sure didn't have a lot of reason for shitting down my neck for pointing it out.

TL;DR - fuck off.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4028 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

The typical response to anything kleinbl00 says:

http://youtu.be/aYVEdPy8gQY?t=39s

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Stagnant_Pig  ·  4029 days ago  ·  link  ·  

While I agree with you, I hate the word "cute" used in such context. Every time an honest remark is called "cute", no matter how stupid it may be, I just want to punch you in the face.

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