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mlmacchia  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Obama DOJ formally accuses journalist in leak case of committing crimes

After doing more research, I think the article is misleading. The reporter has not been "formally accused." That would mean indictment, and as far as I can tell he hasn't been indicted. I don't think the DOJ has the legal teeth to actually prosecute him. They're probably pissed off at him, but that's about all they can be, I think. This is regarding a 2010 search warrant for Rosen's emails in their prosecution of Stephen Kim for espionage.





thenewgreen  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pissed off at Rosen? For doing what, his job? If anyone should be pissed off it's Rosen and us, the citizenry. If journalists have to be worried that their emails will be monitored or that they can be subject to this type of investigation, we all lose. A free press is essential to our democracy.

    Court documents in the Kim case reveal how deeply investigators explored the private communications of a working journalist — and raise the question of how often journalists have been investigated as closely as Rosen was in 2010. The case also raises new concerns among critics of government secrecy about the possible stifling effect of these investigations on a critical element of press freedom: the exchange of information between reporters and their sources.
How is that "transparent" government working out? I can almost hear the "I told you so's" from down the street at cliffelam's house.
cliffelam  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Look, the stupid Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland security were a joint failure by Bush and the R's and D's in both houses.

But what you are seeing is a machine politician unfettered by a critical press.

My personal hope is that this takes down his presidency and cripples him for the next three years. And provides a boost to libertarian and small gov't candidates on both sides of the fence.

-XC

b_b  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    My personal hope is that this takes down his presidency and cripples him for the next three years.

I'm not going far enough to say that I regret voting for Obama, but I'm definitely leaning that way. If Romney would've campaigned in such a way that I would have believed he would run the Presidency like he ran his governorship, I likely would've voted for him. But unfortunately "severely conservative" became his motto, and none of us disillusioned 08 Obama voters felt like we had much choice. American politics are a shame.

cliffelam  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Funny, Romney looked like a Mass liberal to me. And to most of my libertarian friends he looked like a big gov't centrist.

Elephant, blind men, etc.

-XC

b_b  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haha. Perspective and expectation shape the way we see the world. Obviously we saw the same debates, the same adds, the same speeches. I guess that's why he never had a chance from the beginning; everyone had preconceived, negative feelings about him.

cliffelam  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And Obama was the unexamined blank canvas.

Maybe this means that HRH really can't be president. OTOH, if we had a female president that is another LARGE group of people I never have to listen complain about "lack of access to power" again. And it might be the final nail in the affirmative action coffin lid.

I can dream.

_XC

b_b  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    And it might be the final nail in the affirmative action coffin lid.

No, I think you'll get your wish on that this summer when the Court rules on the University of Texas case.

b_b  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Look, the stupid Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland security were a joint failure by Bush and the R's and D's in both houses.

Apparently, none of them thinks it was a failure, because they reauthorized it (Obama signed the reauth in 2011). That law has always bothered me for the reason that there's no possible way it was written in response to 9/11, as it it something like a 350 page bill with all sorts of complex clauses; it couldn't have been written in a month. They (both parties, as you suggest) were looking to pass this for a long time. Somethings I've read said that most of the law was written as far back as '99, but that nobody had the stones to bring such an assault on liberty to the floor, given the fact that they would be thrown out of office under normal circumstances. The reauthorization, without much protest from the public and with little reason to keep most of the provision in place anyway, proves the old adage that the gov't doesn't give back any power it's granted.

cliffelam  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok, I'll agree that the mess will just get bigger and bigger.

Imagine how great Obamacare is gonna be....

_XC

b_b  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We shall see. Like I said the other day, I'm willing to hold judgement (against my better judgement) for a few years.

On a side note, two of the things in the health law that I foresee being the biggest disasters are 1) basing Medicare/caid reimbursements on patient satisfaction surveys, as everyone in healthcare knows that the malcontents are waaaay louder than the rest of us, and usually sicker, too; and 2) basing Medicare/caid reimbursements on readmission rates, as there is no way to control patient behavior once they leave the hospital. How do they envision this conversation going? Doctor: "Sir, you're severely diabetic, don't eat large amounts of sugar while continuing to get 0 exercise." Patient: "Oh wow, I never thought of it that way, thanks!" And everyone lives happily ever after.

cliffelam  ·  4204 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Government regulations are like tattoo's - you can only change them before you get them.

-XC