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kleinbl00  ·  4292 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Quitters Never Win: The Costs of Leaving Social Media

    I felt like throwing something different out there to provoke discussion.

And I appreciate it. I really do think it's an important discussion to have. I think it's an important discussion to have right, though - Otherwise you end up with conversations like this one where one person asserts that everything is fine because it feels fine.

This link is full of statistics and facts, but it's also a video whereby every kid can watch and go "I'm not that guy, he's wearing a different sweater than me." It's a lot like global warming: when you are presenting a scenario that illustrates sweeping changes in behavior are necessary, you can't go off half-cocked on the data because your audience is going to be overtly hostile to your message.

    Anyway, one thing that has yet to be addressed in the comments is what the author says about how abstention from Facebook removes a certain amount of agency from the user, in that other people are posting about you, and not being on Facebook precludes your being able to do anything about it.

Hey, hey! Time for an Aaron Sorkin quote!

I have had to learn a thing or two about spin. An absence of spin is, truly, negative spin. If you aren't managing your own online image, someone else will manage it for you - and guaranteed, their motives are different.

I was dragged kicking and screaming to cell phones and I was dragged kicking and screaming to Facebook. I would say roughly 30% of the time I spend on Facebook is spent re-jiggering my security settings in response to some damn thing or other that changes in the TOS. I resent that time, but I still put it in - we didn't start this fistfight but we're sure as fuck in it. Many of my friends, confronted with a reality in which any job interview requires them to "friend" someone from HR so that their FB profile can be sniffed, maintain two or three Facebook profiles: a real one that only a select few know about under a pseudonym and a fake one that is essentially a resume dossier. It's kind of the obvious outcome when old, calcified thinking demands compliance from young, agile thinking and it makes me glad that I'm no longer involved in sarariman bullshit.

that is the cost of opting out of Facebook - but the author doesn't really get into the essentials, instead waving hands around and speaking in general terms.





thundara  ·  4291 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    An absence of spin is, truly, negative spin. If you aren't managing your own online image, someone else will manage it for you - and guaranteed, their motives are different.

Man, if that's for your job, that sucks. But are you really sure about that with regards to your personal life? I just stopped caring about my "public" image, personally. It feels a lot better to not give a fuck. And I really haven't seen it affect my life negatively in any way.

If someone's gonna talk shit about you, they'll find any place that's behind your back to do so. And is someone's gonna impersonate you, I'd expect you would find out quickly if you informed your friends that you never want or have had a facebook profile.

Or maybe it's some other scenario? My mind's creativity is dry this evening.

kleinbl00  ·  4291 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    But are you really sure about that with regards to your personal life?

these are the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

thenewgreen  ·  4285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just ran across this. That's super creepy kb.

kleinbl00  ·  4285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nah, that one was just disturbing.

This one is creepy.

thenewgreen  ·  4283 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My intuition tells me that person is lonely.

thundara  ·  4291 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    We know he's a writer, male and live in the LA area.

Well that narrows it down.

Joking aside, I would think that maintaining no public internet profile would give you better odds in avoiding CJer's hellfire.

kleinbl00  ·  4291 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Certainly. The issue is if you wish to participate in social media, you have a "public internet profile."

Some of them are tenacious.