TO READ FOR NEXT WEEK:
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison
DISCUSSION OF LAST WEEK'S READING:
Prompts for discussion
Neutron Star: I believe this piece actually fits into one of Larry Niven's larger series. What were people's thoughts on the universe? The inter-character politics? If there's a lot interest in this piece we could explore more from the same setting.
The Machine Stops. From 1909, I think this may actually be the oldest piece we've covered in the club. I was immediately struck by the predicted technology and its implications. In what way were the nuances portrayed accurate in describing the state of the world with technology as we know it today?
And remember to vote for your favorites for next week
Ongoing list of material to vote on
Frankenstein
Forbidden Planet
The Day the Earth Stood Still
I, Robot (book)
Watchbird by Robert Sheckley
Equoid by Charles Stross
Shoutouts:
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Been a busy week for me, so I wasn't able to read Neutron Star (might post my thoughts in a few days); but since I'm already familiar with The Machine Stops, here's a contribution: I first encountered this story in a 50 cent paperback compilation from the early 60s called 17X Infinity. Even then, this story was considered to be old. Here's the editor's notes from that paperback: Mr. Forster wrote the editor on February 10, 1962, concerning the origins of the story: "I have not the least recollection of what set it going, but it was a protest against one of the earlier heavens of H.G. Wells. It was variously judged and on the whole unfavourably. I remember reading it to a few friends, and the sole comment was 'Too long.' " The story was first published, according to Mr. Forster, "in a long-defunct and brief-lived periodical, The Oxford and Cambridge Review." It must give the author a grimly ironic feeling, now, almost fifty-five years later, to read of plans for building underground cities against atomic attack. That was one invention he did not predict: the nuclear bomb. I absolutely love this story for its predictions, because we can really see their reflections in the world today. We're increasingly glued to our own screens and isolating each other physically or through body language, tapping at keyboards and getting most of our entertainment through the internet in a way that the editor of 17X probably wouldn't be able to predict himself in 1962. We do this through computers and phones that many people see as "magic boxes" that they can't repair themselves. We "lecture" each other, either through a vlog on YouTube or simply by typing up posts like this. There's a diagnosible condition, agoraphobia, for the fear of the outdoors. With the impending effects of climate change, even the respirators don't seem that far off. I do think the appeal comes from the way it's aged; read at the time, I'd understand why it would get bad reviews. It's a fairly boring ramble in that context I'd imagine. However, as its predictions have come true, its commentary on human nature becomes more relevant- and that's why it's interesting. Are we as a species really so predictable that it was possible to visualize so relatively accurately what we'd be like in the future? Given the negativity of the prediction, should that disturb us at all?This story was written in 1909- the year that the Wright brothers formed their first corporation to manufacture "airships," and the year that the first radio "S-O-S" was ever sent- by Jack Binns, when his ship, the S.S. Republic, collided with the S.S. Florida. There were no hints of modern television, cybernetics, push-button living, intercommunication systems or fallout shelters. None of these bits of paraphernalia of the modern Machine that Forster imagines were in existence in those verdant days. Remember all this as you read this vision of the future by a thoughtful philosopher and one of the greatest prose stylists of our time.
I was very impressed that it not only got the technology down right with it being so far away, but also had the prescience to accurately realize the greater effects it would have on our interpersonal relations. That part of the equation has been obscure to people even as recently as the last decade. I think it's interesting that there's such a negative connotation with the predictions here. Similar futurism in the 50's was all bright and utopian. It definitely speaks to the environment from which it was borne. By the way, thanks for the pick and discussion about it. There's a special thoughtfulness behind the story that is definitely valuable in the scificlub.