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comment by steve

glad everyone is ok - seriously.

If an actuary CAN collect and examine data trends, and actuary WILL collect and examine data trends.

When I worked for State Farm in 2004... we were collecting SSNs for price quotes. It's all part of the puzzle. Love it or hate it - if you have good credit, statistically speaking, you will be a safer driver - or so they say...

I hate it because I have impeccable credit and I'm paying more for coverage now that when I was 25 and single. (that has something to do with the value of my vehicles now though...)





kleinbl00  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ha! I'm driving the same car I was when I was 25. Rates are definitely cheaper!

steve  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do I remember correctly? You drive a stealth? Loved it then... love it now.

kleinbl00  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Indeed. Garden-variety in "ticket me" red. Little bitch is at the shop right now because it blew a seal on the clutch master cylinder. Which apparently has a proportioning valve between master and slave, no idea why, which has to come from Boston.

We're approaching the point where repairs and upkeep outweigh the price of retiring it... but the only thing I've been able to work myself up into caring about is an AWD CTS (ewww and more than I want to spend on a car right now) or one of the new 'vettes (a factor of five or six more than I want to spend and as completely impractical a car as I could muster, considering I have a toddler). So Ye Olde Stealth may stick around a while longer...

steve  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The new 'vette is the first one since the 70s that gives me the tingling in the giblets... it is smooth.

the CTS is.... well yah. not my thing. I can admire it's power and even styling. I just have a real hard time thinking about owning a caddy. I think you and I are still two decades away from feeling ok about that. (as much as cadillac wants to change that image).

kleinbl00  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm with you on the 'vette. And the Caddy...

Well here's the thing. I've been living in Los Angeles for eight years. Apocryphally, BMW sells more cars in SoCal than they do in Bavaria. It's one of those statistics you hear a lot but can't source... yet it sure feels true. And they're all driven by assholes.

This is true of all German cars in SoCal. Audi, VW, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes... if there's an asshole in front of you, his car came from Deutschland. If the Boxster were a Toyota I'd love one, but it's got that stink of entitled Westsider.

Meanwhile, the mooks from the 909 love their gigantic Mustangs and Camaros, and the mooks from OC love their Astons and Maseratis because it proves they have all the talent and class of the Redneckistanis but shit tons more money. But Cadillac? Lincoln?

You either operate a towncar company or are certifiably deviant.

Extend to most American brands. buy a BMW 1-series you're frugal. Buy a Chevy Cobalt you're an Armenian weirdo. I see more Masaratis than I see new 'vettes. I see more Lamborghinis than I see new 'vettes. And I see more Bentleys than I see Cadillacs.

The 'vette and the Cadillac CTS are the most "american-made" cars available. And tha Darth Vader-lookin' angular monstrosity is starting to grow on me. When you say "I want a 2-door AWD coupe with a back seat that isn't German" your choices are severely limited... and when one of the best values turns out to be an old man car, you almost get there for the irony alone.

veen  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm glad she's okay.

    if there's an asshole in front of you, his car came from Deutschland.

Got cut off by a BMW again this Tuesday, before I even hit the freeway. Had to slam into the breaks hard to not hit the fucker. Interestingly enough, here in Europe the Audi drivers have taken over the role of most dickish driving behaviour from the BMW drivers.

Do they sell Volvos there? Great quality, generally reliable and safe. Better than Saab because Saab drivers are managers who think they're cooler than they actually are.

briandmyers  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

IMO, Volvos have been Fords for quite a while. Saabs have been GMs since 1994 (which is why I drive a '93).

kleinbl00  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My prejudice against Volvo is at least 30 years old. "Safe" is more than a descriptor, it's a philosophy with Volvo.

dublinben  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Have you considered the Chevy SS? It's much more practical than cars with similar performance. I also think the bland styling makes it a good sleeper car.

kleinbl00  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

1) Zeus No Like Bland Styling

2) TOO MANY DOORS

3) Not AWD

user-inactivated  ·  3403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Normally I don't recommend GM cars due to quality issues, but I can easily make an exception for their performance cars. The Chevy SS is so easily overlooked, just like the Pontiac G8 was. It's an easy car to recommend, even if the platform it's on is a bit dated at this point. The Cadillac ATS is another solid option. I think I was talking to b_b about that car the other week.

wnissen  ·  3402 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Car insurance pays a high percentage of the premium as claims, not commissions / profit / etc., so they are more likely than, say, title insurance, to really dig down and find the factors that influence payouts. It's still hard to believe that a DUI outweighs the risk aversion that presumably produces a perfect credit score. I'm sure the actuaries know what they are doing.