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b_b  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Personal Websites

    ...and the pay isn't like what doctors and engineers get anyway - nobody goes into the lab for the money.

Dude, I think you should look into the NIH investigator pay scales. Tops out at about $181,000. You gotta pay your dues in biology, but you can make a lot of money in the lab. There aren't a lot of PI's out there who are starving, just the grad students and post-docs.





teamramonycajal  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh, I know the NIH investigator pay scales are huge. It's really hard to get a lab there unless you're super-established, well-respected, and sort of a field household name. I hear some stuff through the grapevine from a relative who works on the 'other side' in extramural grants.

It's also pretty hard to get a tenure-track job right now. My 2012 supervisor has been a postdoc for like seven years.

b_b  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't mean working for NIH. I mean NIH sponsored investigators, which is pretty much every biologist with a major lab.

teamramonycajal  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It takes some real major justification and long-time work to justify that huge of a salary in your grant package. Here's a table of average salaries by field and rank. The average for a full professor in biomedical sciences - FULL - is about half that.

Also NIH's paylines are shit. There's a guy named Yuntao Wu - brilliant HIV investigator, mentioned in the textbook of the HIV class I took last summer - who is basically preparing to move to China because his money went down the crapper, last I heard. (He may have changed his plans. I don't know. He's still in the United States.) Relative in NIH grants says that handwringing and complaining is de rigueur in Bethesda these days.