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mk  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Istanbul Gets Angry

As an American, I am ashamed that CNN is an example of US journalism. CNN is a proprietor of news-entertainment, and its customers are advertisers. CNN has fallen far since its inception.

I spent a week in Istanbul a couple of years ago, my only trip to Turkey thus far. The proximity and intermingling of liberal and conservative imagery is part of my impression of the place. That, and how lively the streets felt. It wasn't a city of trees. I felt the parks were large, but there were few of them.

Although I am sure the differences are numerous, this movement in Turkey seems to have one common theme with OWS in the US: the illusion of space between capitalists and the government is fading for many in the middle class.





BorgoPo  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a great anecdote. I love Istanbul. It's an intense and complicated city. I've been there several times, too. I agree with your conclusion. I think Turks are angry at their government and their business class, and don't feel as though anyone is looking out for the interests of the country, as a whole.

thenewgreen  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    As an American, I am ashamed that CNN is an example of US journalism.
Me too, but I am largely unfamiliar with the television media in other countries. Are we alone in having a population that is increasingly more concerned with being entertained that being informed? My guess is that this is an increasing phenomenon the world over. I hope I'm wrong though.
BorgoPo  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the problem is that Americans are increasingly disinterested in consuming news, especially foreign news. Newspapers and broadcasters are laying off foreign correspondents, in droves, or reassigning them to domestic gigs, when they can. I don't think this necessarily means Americans are disinterested in news per se, but that they can't relate to the content, or the way it's presented. It also partially explains the persistent popularity of European newspapers (the Guardian, for example) over their US competitors, despite the decline.

mk  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I think the problem is that Americans are increasingly disinterested in consuming news, especially foreign news.

IMO it's not that less of us wanted it over time, but that US news organizations found that they can satisfy enough of us with much less, and do away with expensive international bureaus and correspondents. Unfortunately, in doing so, a generation is growing up without the experience, so they don't even know what they are missing, which probably is leading to a real decline in demand.

    It also partially explains the persistent popularity of European newspapers (the Guardian, for example) over their US competitors, despite the decline.

I think you are right about that.