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kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A Trip To The Abandoned North Brother Island
I'll bet London was worse.

Similar to your link:

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/000985.html





thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Depressing stuff.

I like the images in the link from the post because you see in the buildings the remnants of the occupants. -Empty rusted chairs, beds etc. You can imagine the sick, quarantined inhabitants living in squalor juxtaposed against what is now a lush and rather beautiful scene.

aside: Have you ever listened to the podcast I linked to: "stuff you should know"? You might like it. I have to drive a 6 hour drive today and I cranked out several of them. Their fun and I always come away learning something.

kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I'm diffident towards podcasts. There's a languorousness about them. It's odd - I love the hell out of Audiobooks but for me, podcasts are sloppy. Maybe it's my background in radio, maybe it's the fact that there's nothing keeping people on point, maybe it's the whole "hurr durr we're on audio!" of it all. I've never been able to get into them.

That said, I downloaded one yesterday and made it halfway through. If I get into the habit, I'll revisit this.

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
It is my first foray in to the world of "podcast" as well. It really just felt like listening to an interesting conversation. I should just start downloading audio books. I'm on the road increasingly more.
kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I rather like them. When I used to drive between Seattle and Los Angeles I could get through a good long one. Now I regularly ride my bicycle down the coast between Playa Del Rey and Torrance and back - a good 24 miles, or a little under 2 hours - listening. Often 3-4 times a week. Yaaaay freelance.
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I too have a tremendous amount of autonomy. I work from home for the most part but often need to consult with businesses that are just close enough that flying doesn't make sense, the result is a lot of car time that is usually dominated by NPR or the iPod.

I would imagine that even the best of books could be ruined by a bad reader. -Am I right? Do the authors themselves ever read or is it usually an actor??

I just started reading Mythago Wood per Hein and lessismore's suggestion. When I finish it, I'll start down the "audio book" path.

kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Depends. There are a number of authors who read their own stuff. Robert Reich reads his own; Bill McKibben does, too. Sometimes they do full-blown ridonkulous productions; in prepping for a screenplay (and in avoidance of Swine Flu) I drove the slow way up the coast to my wedding, listening to the first five books in the Left Behind series. Those, they did a full-on old time radio treatment.

The audiobook treatment of Dan Simmons' Hyperion series is about five different voice actors. While I hated the hell out of Hyperion, I loathed the approach they took. And I've avoided Vernor Vinge's "Fire Upon The Deep" because the narrator sucks so hard.

Meanwhile, some readers f'ing rawk. Simon Vance has read a bunch of Richard K Morgan's stuff and he hits it out of the park. Meanwhile, four out of five of the books in The Song of Ice and Fire have been read by Roy Dotrice:

http://www.roydotrice.com/

And then, of course, Audible gave away this for Christmas two years ago:

http://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B002ZEEDAW

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I just went to iTunes to download A Song of Ice and Fire and it's $42 -Doesn't that seem ridiculous?
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Kind of, but A Dance with Dragons is almost 50 hours long, that's a lot of recording time and audiobooks are a bit of a niche still.

The books flew by for me, and the first one was £5.

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I suppose if you break it down to cost-per-hour, it isn't that ridiculous.
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
It's loads though, and I spent about that long reading the books or something like that anyway, it all became a bit of a blur…
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Do you read a lot of Sci-Fi/Fantasty? What do you make of the list kleinb100 linked to? http://brainz.org/the-10-greatest-fantasy-series-all-time/

I'm just getting in to the genre, I've read the LOTR and some Harry Potter but the others on the list are new to me.

I am currently reading Mythago Wood, which so far I'm enjoying.

notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
From that I've read LotR, ASOIAF, Harry Potter, and some Discworld books. I don't avoid it but i don't seek it out either, I've heard bad things about how long the Dark Tower and Wheel of Time books are taking to finish, and ASOIAF could go the same way. The list is fine I guess, and there's some good stuff that I've not read but I'm not sure how much time I want to invest in a series that might never end after realising that I've already done that with ASOIAF.

I'm reading some J.G. Ballard at the minute because it's architectural but also seems like science fiction/fantasy too and it's really enjoyable.

ASOIAF is great, it's more enjoyable that LotR in my opinion as it seems to be a lot more accessible. It may as well have been set in New York gangs instead as the fantasy element is just a setting and it's the politics that drive the narrative.

If you're unsure of it you could check out the TV show which I watched first, and subsequently ordered all the books and read them in quick succession (no internet to distract me either).

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks noseamus, I appreciate the response. ASOIAF... more enjoyable than LotR...? Now I have to check it out. I've read the LotR series a couple of times and was pretty obsessed for a while.
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Yeah, LotR kind of drifts I guess, ASOIAF is pretty pointed for a lot of it although the last two books were more diffuse than the first three, hopefully it picks up again for the last two.
kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Completely.

Audible: 1 credit a month for $15 a month, 2 credits a month for $22.95 a month. Rule of thumb, books over 1000 pages are 2 credits, most other books are 1. And then, they often do "2 for 1" and things like that.

I've been an Audible member for four years now. I have 48 days of audiobooks. Granted, by my math I've given them something like a thousand dollars... which makes me feel not particularly bad about ripping lots of things down to mp4 so I can lend them out.

I'd upload Game of Thrones except I generally keep my audiobooks at stupid-high resolution so it's 2.9 GB. Sorry.

http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B002UZZ93G&qid...

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks for the suggestion and the link. I'm going to try it out, it seems reasonable and you get a free download for signing up. No worries on the upload, I wasn't fishing for that.

Cool, I'll check out that series it received some pretty high praise on Amazon.

kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks. Would you consider this to be a credible list regarding the other 9?
kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
No idea. I'm a sci fi guy; the fact that so many fantasy lists put Game of Thrones ahead of LoTR and Harry Potter blew me away. Then I found out HBO was making it into a series and thought "I need to jump on this."
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Game of Thrones the HBO series seems to have had 1 season so far... how was it?
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Really good. Pretty faithful to the show and pretty well made to boot. The second series is being made at the minute, it only has one because they've only started it.
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks, we need a new TV series to watch. It's been a while since we've embarked upon a new one. Last one was Dexter.
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Have you watched The Wire or Breaking Bad? They put Deter to shame really. Dexter's ok and drops off, The Wire has ruined most of the rest of TV for me.
thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
No to both, but I realize that they both need to be on the top of our list of series to watch. Dexter was good but it was hard for it to compete with the series I watched before it...Battlestat Gallactica. -best series ever.
notseamus  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I'm jealous that you get to experience both with fresh eyes.
kleinbl00  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Lord of the Rings as told in the style of The Sopranos.

That's pretty much Game of Thrones in a nutshell.

thenewgreen  ·  4773 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Sold.