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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Will the Real Lance Armstrong Please Stand Up?

I'm well aware of what living like that would mean to the world's population. It's not a past form of society. There are still some people who live like that today, and I do plan on joining them the first availability I get.

But how do we know that trees don't communicate with one another? Or lions, grass?? We don't know these things so we shouldn't assume one way or another.

I'm against these "advancements" because I view a lot of thing as resisting change and not letting natural selection/evolution follow its natural course. If a person is stupid and jumps off a roof and breaks their leg, we mend them up and they go off and have children of their own. In a natural world, this person would not be able to mate thus not passing on his genes of thinking jumping off a roof is a good idea.





GammaScattering  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How do you know that the advancements we have made are not a form of evolution? Take some microbe for example; lets say that some archaeon is doing well by itself or within its community when all the sudden it picks up the ability to ferment lactose (maybe through horizontal gene transfer (spreading of ideas...)). Should it not use its new found mechanisms for survival? The tools that humanity acquires to sustain itself should be used because it is just another gift of our intellect/ability to adapt to our environment

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How would it ever naturally just pick up that ability all of a sudden. Mutations like that don't occur spontaneously and in the same manner I don't believe we were meant to change fundamental processes in ourselves so drastically except through evolution over time.

GammaScattering  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Question: Are you a creationist? I don't want to step on your beliefs so please let me know.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I believe that the big bang and evolution and everything of that nature was created by God, yes.

symmetry  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Mutations like that actually do occur spontaneously. What difference does it make if the change is conscious or not? We should be able to make better and more efficient changes consciously.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Who's to say though that we can judge what the best and most efficient change is?

symmetry  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Who's to say that we can judge what our, or anything else's, purpose is?

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Exactly. So why should we conclude we are they judges and mess with how we'd naturally progress?

symmetry  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea, I guess what you're saying really relies on the belief that some sort of judge and ultimate purpose actually exists, and since I don't have that belief we will always disagree.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4326 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I do believe there is an actual purpose. Agree to disagree?

symmetry  ·  4326 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Of course.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4326 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The personalities of Hubskinites never ceases to amaze me.

symmetry  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What you're advocating is called Social Darwinism, really just another name for elitism, and would lead to nothing other than a world like the one described by Huxley in Brave New World. This is the type of thinking that leads to racism and eugenics. Scary.

All of those things do communicate with each other. What's your point? Your beliefs are incredibly inconsistent and driven purely by emotion.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4329 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In what ways is it similar to Brave New World? And to be clear, I am in no way stating that any race is superior to another (I'm Hispanic and I've been discriminated against before).

I know that there are inconsistencies and have said that I don't know how fully I believe myself when I say all of these things. They're just thoughts I've had and through this discussion I'm allowed to marinate on them more.