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ecib  ·  4795 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What kind of community will we be? Hubski Etiquette?
>Artifex is upset because he made provocative statements that pushed the discussion beyond his ability to defend himself - and, in a pattern that should be anathema to Libertarian thinking, is now asking for external assistance.

Uh, I think he was just asking for people not to be dicks. My dad and I argue politics all the time at the dinner table, and when he gets his facts wrong or says something idiotic, I don't tell him to "Shut the fuck up." I think you are completely missing his point (trying to miss it?).

Furthermore, it seems that simply having an open discussion with the community about the issue instead of asking Hubski to ban people or implement down arrow so the community could ban people is kind of the epitome of a libertarian response, isn't it? You don't seem very well versed in libertarian solutions to conflict, but hey, that's just how you come across to me, no offense.





kleinbl00  ·  4795 days ago  ·  link  ·  
> I think you are completely missing his point (trying to miss it?).

No, I'm arguing that there are plenty more ways to say "STFU & GTFO" than saying "STFU & GTFO" and among those are quoting the princess bride and mentioning the dreaded imperialism of government.

Just so we're clear - your take on my "rudeness" is the "STFU &GTFO" aspect? Or something else?

dbingham  ·  4794 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Klein, I'm thoroughly sympathetic to your position. I found his original post to be dismissive and obnoxious and I wouldn't have even remotely categorized it under "civil", "respectful" or "intelligent" discussion. But you did kind of cross the line between responding and abusing in your response. And have continued to do so in your discussions since. You two are just kind of trading punches at this point. I thoroughly understand not wanting to just take the punches -- we on the left have been doing that for far too long -- but at this point I think it's a lost cause. Want to be the better man and just step away?
kleinbl00  ·  4794 days ago  ·  link  ·  
At this point we're getting to the useful part: where does Hubski think the border between "responding" and "abusing" is?

People are generally of the opinion that I crossed it. Yet people are also not denying that Artifex's initial post was also on the other side of that line. So the real question is this: who has the obligation to keep abuse out?