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Wrong. I do want to read them, and I think you make some great points. Let's not lose sight of my original point, which is supported by this and that thread. My point was that the BBWAA is garbage who will do anything SportCenter tells them to do. The mere fact that we and others can even seriously debate whether Smith or Trammell was the better SS supports my position that its ridiculous that Smith is is first ballot HoFer while Tram probably won't get in. That's the main thrust of my argument. To me, they were the two best SS's of the 80's. Smith had pizzazz; Tram did not. BB writers have no cred. That is mainly the point I was making.