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kleinbl00  ·  490 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Insurance companies in NYC deny coverage to buildings with subsidized tenants

NEVER CHARGE ELASTIC PRICES FOR AN INELASTIC GOOD

STORY 1

I built a 4x4 triumph TR-7 with a full-roller Chevy 400 on a Scout chassis when I was 18 years old. In New Mexico? You don't even need to get the thing inspected. It's a Scout. It's insured as a Scout. But in Washington they believe in dumb shit like "safety" so they want an inspection that was a bit beyond the abilities of a nineteen year old with a pocket full of tools to pass. Things were fine until I drove that sucker up to Vancouver to see Nine Inch Nails and in dealing with its random overheating problems on Robson street I tapped a Volvo. He got out, I got out, he decided there was no damage, I decided there was no damage, we swapped insurance cards anyway, and a month later, my dad used that as the excuse for us getting dropped by our insurance company rather than my sister totaling a 3rd car.

So now I need insurance in WA state because they can get insurance without me, but since I'm out-of-state I'm not gonna get covered anyway (was the excuse, which was bullshit, my parents are awful and always have been). And I'm up talking to an insurance agent and I'm saying it's a Scout and she says "any modifications" and I say "...some" and she looks at me and says "go on" and I am a shitty liar. Eventually she tells me to just drive it by the office. I do. She doubles over in laughter as I wave.

She calls me two days later. Because you are required to have insurance to get a license plate in WA state, there must be an insurance company of last resort, which means the state has an insurance company. And they will insure my vehicle, sight unseen, for $2500 a month.

Suffice it to say the vehicle never really moved again.

STORY 2

I built a birth center with a naturopathic doctor and two birth suites when I was 43 years old. In California? You don't even need to get the thing inspected. It's an office. It's insured as an office, and you don't have to insure offices. But in Washington they believe in dumb shit like "safety" so they want an inspection that you damn betcha we met (just re-upped last week, in fact) and they absolutely want you to have medical malpractice insurance.

There are only so many states that even license midwives and even fewer that require malpractice but since it's required by the state, you guessed it - the lender of last resort is the state. FORTUNATELY FOR US we had a nice long uneventful tail in California which meant we have one of the only non-state policies written, which probably saves us $30k a year, maybe more. Pretty much every birth center around us is closing or for sale and that is a direct consequence of rising insurance costs and stagnant insurance payouts (and COVID).

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It's true, fair and accurate to say that Section 8 housing is over-represented from a minority standpoint. It's also true, fair and accurate to say that Section 8 housing is over-represented from a low-income senior standpoint, and from a mental illness standpoint. Paul was Section 8. My crazy girlfriend's schizophrenic aunt and uncle were Section 8, and they chain-smoked so much in their apartment that the landlord had to evict them and tear the unit (and two neighboring units) down to the drywall to return it to "habitable" after a Section 8 inspection. Two things can be true: minorities, the former homeless, the mentally ill and indigent senior citizens can be entirely equal to everyone else from a moral, spiritual, ethical and intellectual standpoint AND the overhead of providing housing for them can come at a premium due to circumstances beyond their control.

They could pass a law? That says insurance companies have to insure buildings that take Section 8? And the insurance companies will go "fine fuck you we'll add it to your bill." Then rents go up, then your Section 8 vouchers don't cover as much, then more people are homeless, then Section 8 vouchers go up not nearly enough because Republicans hate poor people, then rents go up, lather rinse repeat [for 85 years.)(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing)).

Ultimately? if the goal is to house the public, we need to invest in public housing.

Like every other advanced economy on the planet.





user-inactivated  ·  489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Capital raises rents

    and the state housing benefits

    so you can fiddle around a bit

    with the iron law of wages

    and even pay less in salary

    than the price of food and rent

    because the state is so happy to intervene

    if the cost of living has become

    all too expensive

kleinbl00  ·  489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah let's not mince words - if someone else is subsidizing your housing they're going to make it suck for you. "Means-tested" is conservative-speak for "make it humiliating."

But I'll point out that Swedish punk sounds like fucking REM compared to American folk.

    I suppose that Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate

    He stirred up in that bloodpot of human hearts

    When he drawed that color line

    Here at his Beach Haven family project

    Beach Haven ain't my home!

    No, I just can't pay this rent!

    My money's down the drain,

    And my soul is badly bent!

    Beach Haven is Trump’s Tower

    Where no black folks come to roam,

    No, no, Old Man Trump!

    Old Beach Haven ain't my home!

    I'm calling out my welcome to you and your man both

    Welcoming you here to Beach Haven

    To love in any way you please and to have some kind of a decent place

    To have your kids raised up in.

       
    Beach Haven ain't my home!

    No, I just can't pay this rent!

    My money's down the drain,

    And my soul is badly bent!

    Beach Haven is Trump’s Tower

    Where no black folks come to roam,

    No, no, Old Man Trump!

    Old Beach Haven ain't my home!

uhsguy  ·  489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We may need to build units but they should probably be built differently. 100-200sf Concrete walls, wet bathrooms and single burner kitchens. Not much bigger than a small motor home and mostly indestructible. IT should be shelter but it doesn’t have to be nice or big and common building materials are not suitable but these extreme applications.

kleinbl00  ·  489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I disagree.

Housing is a huge part of dignity and dignity is a huge part of society. Crime and vagrancy are expensive and most homeless people are citizens having a hard time, almost always due to circumstances beyond their control. The proper pathway is to have a place of dignity so you can grab the bottom rung of the ladder again and work your way up. If you can't? If you're stuck on the bottom rung? You should be treated as if you're on the ladder.

Some homeless/mentally ill people can't properly live on their own. Halfway houses catch those who slot into the system neatly and their lives are expensive - I have a buddy who manages those situations for the state and one DD ex-criminal can be a million dollars a year or more. Actuarially speaking, however, that's cheaper than violence.

uhsguy  ·  488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A million a year per person is unsustainable, and it’s not cheap. In fact Actuarially speaking 10 years of that is worth one American life. It is 2x more than my entire projected lifetime earnings. Locking that person up in jail is significantly cheaper, a gallows and 6 feet of dirt even more so.

There is a practical point where society basically needs to let people somewhat ethically live out their lives in a contained fashion where they cannot harm others but no more than that. Burning 2-3 lifetimes worth of lifetime output on one broken individual makes no sense. I can’t see how as a society we should invest in 1 broken person as opposed to 10 teachers for example.

kleinbl00  ·  488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    There is a practical point where society basically needs to let people somewhat ethically live out their lives in a contained fashion where they cannot harm others but no more than that.

And wouldn't the world be a simpler place if we all agreed where that point is?

Regardless of what the "sustainable" price is, cost reduction was the proximate cause of the increase in American homelessness from the '70s onward. As far as "a gallows and 6 feet of dirt" is concerned, the civilized world resoundingly condemns your approach.