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comment by am_Unition

Sure.

Yeah to be clear, I doubt this. I'm sorry





bhrgunatha  ·  535 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Christopher Mellon, who spent nearly twenty years in the U.S. Intelligence Community [...] However, it is a delicate matter getting this potentially explosive information into the right hands for validation. This is made harder by the fact that, rightly or wrongly, a number of potential sources do not trust the leadership of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office established by Congress.

So the spook-of-20 years can't validate the claims he and someone else have seen in some secret government document(s)?

    Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance [...] The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone [...] Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.

So another spook this time with "top secret clearance" claims (with no proof or evidence) that alien craft are spread globally, although no other country has mentioned these before nor claimed to have "partial and up to full alien craft" in their possession.

    Grusch has served as an Intelligence Officer for over fourteen years [...] he has numerous awards and decorations for his participation in covert and clandestine operations to advance American security.

But obviously not disinformation because ... err...

It's not like anyone would lie to Congress and get away with it?

Or a government agency would spread misinformation and conspiracy theories to expand their budget and cover-up their own advanced tech research that may have accidentally been detected.

Probably juuuuust co-incidence this is brought up after Chinese spy balloons (that the USAF already knew about and were tracking but didn't bother to acknowledge until they were spotted from the ground by civilians) were shot down.

kleinbl00  ·  535 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"secrets" don't really work the way people think they do. Jack Texiera spent a few years in "the US intelligence community" keeping servers running. He got to go into rooms where there were print-outs he didn't need to interact with in the slightest, but had been approved to be in the rooms because he wasn't an obvious risk and his interaction with them would be incidental.

My father had a Q clearance. My grandmother was part of the process for approving Q clearances. All that means is "do you get to work with the nukes or not." Doesn't mean you get to work with anything else, no matter what Wikipedia thinks. "Top Secret?" There are 1.3 million people in the United States with Top Secret clearances. There are 1.6 million realtors. There are only 145,000 licensed cosmetologists (and 22 million concealed carry permits, but that's another discussion). If it really matters it's "sensitive compartmentalized information" which is spook-speak for "if you don't need to know about this, you don't know about this."

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I tried to set up a series called "Project Blue Book." No, not the one with Littlefinger in it, pretty much the exact opposite. If you really look at the way the CIA has responded to secrets and their leaking, it's always a UFO story. Project MOGUL? Flying saucers. High-altitude ejection seats? Little green men. Mach 3 spyplanes? Definitely UFOs. Stealth fighters? Alien autopsies. Somewhere, there's a manual or a working group or a department or something whose whole job is to go like this whenever the government needs to do something they don't want you to see but you're probably going to see:

The Soviets actually tried something similar. After making fun of the West for their silly little green men, the Soviet government went balls deep on UFOs in 1989, providing TASS with all sorts of weird-ass official sketches, like something out of Unsolved Mysteries. They ran this shit in Western papers, it was wild. But ultimately it came out that this was a KGB attempt to distract people from shit like Chernobyl, East Berlin and the general collapse of their way of life. The Soviet intelligence community saw the whole Hangar 18/Area 51/Astounding Comics/Forbidden Planet/War of the Worlds cultural excitement around the CIA's counterintelligence and said "we need some of that." Unfortunately for them it was the wrong approach to the wrong problem and the country was in the dustbin two years later.

I've spoken voluminously about the whole UAP thing so I won't regurgitate. Fundamentally, I think we've got some pretty heinous networked telemetry we'd really rather not have reverse-engineered and out at the corners it generates spurious data. As in, "creates phantom signals on anything with an interface" because the whole point is to have the interface draw your attention to things you can't see with the naked eye. Whether that's right or wrong, certain things are 100% bound to be true:

- Investigation into it will be sensitive compartmentalized information

- Anyone who is exposed to information they do not need to understand will not be given an explanation

- Any leaks involving UFOs, aliens, extraterrestrial technology or anything other than "telemetry" will so flood the zone with bullshit that actual insight will be buried

- if Bob Lazar didn't happen spontaneously the CIA would have had to invent him

Hey, let's check in on the sensationalist wing of the fourth estate:

I've seen this show before.