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goobster  ·  1104 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Would You Manage 70 Children And A 15-Ton Vehicle For $18 An Hour?

To be a school bus driver you also need a Commercial Drivers License, or CDL, which is the same license held by truckers driving 18-wheelers full of gasoline.

And, once you have your shiny new CDL, all penalties are doubled and limits are halved. So that .08 blood alcohol level you get on your second glass of wine? Yeah, now you are over the limit - aka, Drunk Driving - with HALF a glass of wine. And if you are in an accident in ANY VEHICLE - not just your heavy-duty commercial vehicle - and deemed at fault? You get DOUBLE the points on your record. And there is a max number of points before your license is revoked.... both CDL and private driver's license.

And before starting every single day, and at the end of the day, you must execute a complete pre- and post-trip inspection of the vehicle. Which includes simple things like oil level, tire pressures, and visible damage, but also includes proper lubing of joints, assessing belt and tire condition, and checking that any repairs done by your mechanics last night were done properly and fixed the problem you noted yesterday on your inspection report.

Which means you really need to be almost a mechanic. At the very least, understand the proper operation and maintenance of a commercial diesel-powered vehicle.

AND you can only work two shifts that run roughly from about 6:AM to 8:AM, and 2:PM to 4:PM, and are not paid for the 6-hour gap in between, which isn't long enough to have a second job or source of income.

This type of work has been chipped at from every single direction for so long, there's nothing but bone left. All the meat has been stripped off the bone...





katakowsj  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the breakdown. The markets are deciding. No more busses. For any kids. We’ve been pimping these folks waaay too long. Treat ‘‘em right and they’ll come back. I’m at year 24 of middle school math teaching. We’ve been asked to teach without copy paper. Shipping rates have driven up the price. Back to old school lined paper. My pile of FU money cannot grow fast enough.

I now have a Google meet open each hour so I can provide instruction to all students in class and the 8-10 that never got vaccinated and are at home quarantined. That, and I have my once per year admin, observation/evaluation, coming up any day now.

goobster  ·  1102 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The school bus industry is largely owned by First Student, NEC, and Harrows. These are three companies that own a shitload of school buses, have drivers on staff, and provide school bus services for a fee.

Districts get tired of running their own fleet, maintaining their own buses (and paying their own mechanics to be on staff), hiring and keeping drivers, dealing with parents, etc. So eventually they sell their entire operation to First Student (usually... they own like 80% of the market), and then pay a monthly fee to First Student for THEM to take on the job of busing children to/from school, games, and field trips.

This, I think, is the future of school buses in America. I believe we are maybe 3 years from this being a complete monopoly owned by First Student.

And I'm OK with that.

I work very closely with First Student and NEC, and they are both really upstanding companies that have the right people, doing good work, for the right reasons. And the additional services First Student offers - like a parent app that shows the location and ETA of the kid's bus, and notifications when the kid gets on/off the bus - are going to make the public very happy to be dealing with this monopoly and trusting their kids to this company, rather than some local yahoo who just got their CDL yesterday.

Some regulatory changes need to be made around differentiating between a school bus driver and a semi-truck driver carrying explosives, but those will happen if First Student garners enough power and support from schools and parents.

I wouldn't write off school buses as a thing just yet...

katakowsj  ·  1102 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have zero experience with First Student. If they can do the job well and do right by their people, more power to them.

I actually had the opportunity to speak with a real live, and really excellent public school bus driver today. We drove our 8th graders across town to see a high school production of "The sound of Music". The driver, Amanda, was a parent of a student I had several years back. She'd said she remembered me. I shared our conversation with her about the challenges facing bus drivers. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that Amanda and her husband operate business together and she says she drives a bus mainly to have a sense of connection with the surrounding community. It's sad that we have so few people of this character available to serve our schools.

katakowsj  ·  1102 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have zero experience with First Student. If they can do the job well and do right by their people, more power to them.

I actually had the opportunity to speak with a real live, and really excellent public school bus driver today. We drove our 8th graders across town to see a high school production of "The sound of Music". The driver, Amanda, was a parent of a student I had several years back. She'd said she remembered me. I shared our conversation with her about the challenges facing bus drivers. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that Amanda and her husband operate business together and she says she drives a bus mainly to have a sense of connection with the surrounding community. It's sad that we have so few people of this character available to serve our schools.