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comment by kleinbl00

Dunno if this is discussed in the study; Nature is locked down and sci hub don't have it. But California EV leases were aggressive from 2012-2016, two thirds of the years studied. Manufacturers got emissions credits and tax benefits for dumping EVs in Cali. You could literally lease a Fiat 800 electric for $59 a month for 3 years for zero down, charger and everything. Then the Trump Administration came in and all that was donezo from 2017-2018. The incentive to buy or lease an electric vehicle went away.

Housing in LA is also really shitty and got really shittier. No idea what percentage of people went from house to apartment or shared living to being on their own but chances are, if you don't have your own garage you don't have anywhere to plug in anyway. Buddy of mine paid $15k to put a Supercharger in his parking spot in his condo, which is not something you're going to do twice. Especially if that person moved out of California (again, don't know if they're tracking that).





Devac  ·  1307 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Can't access Nature from home until after the weekend (maintenance), but donuts to oranges, the same data is all over here. Never forget: researchers like to re-publish their crap as many times as they can get away with it. Some of it might be in free access.

kleinbl00  ·  1306 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yer a good man, Charlie Brown. Keep in mind I'm a cranky old man who doesn't have to access scientific papers for purposes other than winning Internet pissing matches.

So yeah. This is a total bullshit study.

1) It does not distinguish between owned vehicles and leased vehicles.

2) They parsed 22 different demographic vectors but didn't even bother to break out the importance of incentives.

3) They make no acknowledgement of the aforementioned lapsing of lease incentives, nor of the fact that federal incentives for Teslas were cut in half in 2018. Tesla has a 4% marketshare of all vehicles in California, and lo and behold their sales were down 20% in CA in 2020.

4) Stupidest of all, though is no mention of this simple fact: if you had an electric vehicle from 2012-2017, you had a Clean Air Vehicle sticker and could rawk the carpool lane. But starting in 2018, you needed a new CAV sticker, which you could only get for a new car, which kicked 200,000 cars out of the HOV lane.

So let's review. From 2012-2016 you could ride the carpool lane with a heavily subsidized vehicle. The subsidies went away in 2017 and the carpool lane went away in 2018. So now you're paying 50% more for a vehicle that costs 20% more to insure and yeah - as goobster points out, 80% of owners stuck with it anyway.