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goobster  ·  1512 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Life comes at you fast: The Fastening

The "they broke down the gate" part of the story is not something I had seen/heard before.

And it supports his use of a firearm, according to the Castle Doctrine.

So... is there even a gate on the property? Or is it a gated community, and since the crowd was going to the Mayor's house in the gated community they knocked down the gate?

Hm.





kleinbl00  ·  1512 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Get over yourself.

It's a "gated community" and the "community" gate is adjacent to their property. Which has not stopped them from claiming the property as their own. All photos of the "destroyed gate" are from the McCloskeys; meanwhile, police actually led protestors through that gate.

All of this is available to you in like two minutes of Googling. But you've got a hard-on for pointing guns at trespassers so now you're scratching your chin and going "hmmmmmmmbothsiiiiiiiiiiides" and it's fucking childish.

goobster  ·  1512 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nah. I just figured the lawyers are fudging the truth because they are lawyers, and as soon as I saw THEM talking about a "gate" that hadn't been a part of any other news story... I got skeptical.

But you know me... I always give them a chance... and they invariably prove to me in the wrong again.

kleinbl00  ·  1511 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Real talk? There are two legal concepts that I hear CCW owners discuss that are completely fucking alien to literally everyone else: "Castle doctrine" and "felony murder."

And real talk? "Castle doctrine" and "felony murder" are dog-whistle language every bit as much as "death panels" or "death tax." The rest of the goddamn world knows them as "stand your ground laws" and, if you're a foreigner, "holy fuck you insane goddamn yanks" laws because in both cases, they are vestiges of a legal system that dealt with some of its issues since Dred Scott but not all of them and that fuckin' hell it flies in the face of lex talionis which has been around since paperwork looked like this:

It will not surprise you to learn that both "castle doctrine" and "felony murder" are racist piece-of-shit laws championed by racist pieces of shit and that both are instrumental legal concepts designed to maximize the 'othering' of anyone in a conflict while also advancing the role of deadly force in conflict resolution. They are, in a nutshell, bullshit racist cracker dogwhistles designed to make you think like Wayne LaPierre.

Don't think like Wayne LaPierre.