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comment by MarsTheGodofWar
MarsTheGodofWar  ·  4412 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Predictions

That's outrageously hyperbolic and dramatic. All you have is overly alarmist partisan rhetoric. People act as if every election is the most important election in history, the world is ending, and the opposition is the sheer embodiment of Nazi principals. Romney's just some ordinary politician. And Obama's the same. You may not being making childish threats, but you certainly sound childish.





45usp  ·  4412 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I take deep offense at being dismissed as being 'childish' and 'dramatic' for thinking this election matters and that politics matter. In my life I've been staunchly independent and critical of politicians on the whole. Recently however the entire Republican party has gone completely off the rails.

If you think I'm hyperbolic, what of the 68 Nobel laureates who signed a letter stating, ["[Romney] supports a budget that, if implemented, would devastate a long tradition of support for public research and investment in science at a time when this country's future depends, as never before, on innovation."](http://www.americanprogressaction.org/wp-content/uploads/201...)

And the LA Times for writing, "+Voters face a momentous choice+ in November between two candidates offering sharply different prescriptions for what ails the country. Obama's recalls the successful formula of the 1990s, when the government raised taxes and slowed spending to close the deficit. The alternative offered by Romney would neglect the country's infrastructure and human resources for the sake of yet another tax cut and a larger defense budget than even the Pentagon is seeking."

The New York Times: "The economy is slowly recovering from the 2008 meltdown, and the country could suffer another recession if the wrong policies take hold. +The United States is embroiled in unstable regions that could easily explode into full-blown disaster+."

The Washington Post: "So voters are left with the centerpiece of Mr. Romney’s campaign: +promised tax cuts that would blow a much bigger hole in the federal budget while worsening economic inequality+. His claims that he could avoid those negative effects, which defy math and which he refuses to back up with actual proposals, are more insulting than reassuring."

The Chicago Tribune: "One of these decades, the children in which we now invest our hope, and our love, will speak with today’s adults about the America that we bequeathed to them. +They will praise us for avoiding the financial ravages they watch other nations endure. Or they will condemn us for living ruinously beyond our means and forcing the enormous payback onto them+ -- a criminal act no previous American generation has committed against those that came next."

The Economist: "All politicians flip-flop from time to time; but Mr Romney could win an Olympic medal in it."

Bill Nye: "This is +the most important election of my life+."

The Sacramento Bee: "+The scariest part of a Romney victory+ is the potential that he and Paul Ryan would attempt to shape the U.S. Supreme Court to match their religious and political beliefs..."

The Winston Salem Journal, a Republican stronghold in my own state: "Romney’s policies — +warmed-over trickle-down economics — will make matters worse+."

I find the majority of instances in which I try to be fair, I end up suffering for it. However, I'll go ahead and also cite the Los Angeles Daily News which endorses Romney, writing, "The nation's budget problems remain unsolved, +portending a new financial crisis ahead+." (I do find it ridiculous that they claim Romney is a "seasoned leader" and they blame the partisanship divide on Obama rather than obvious programmatic obstructionism on the part of Republican congressmen, but that's another topic.)

There's a lot of strong language out there. Plenty of people find this election to be of critical importance. You can't dismiss it all as political shenanigans from which you are largely immune. To think you can float above it all is a nice lie. What happens today will come to affect us, maybe not next week, but eventually, and tangibly.

Now, the Nazi reference. The Republican agenda has seriously regressed in areas of civil and religious rights. The fact that Republican politicians keep coming up with acts that have broad, far-reaching powers with little oversight -- like the Patriot Act and SOPA -- as well as casting 'others' (homosexuals, women, blacks, gypsies, or whatever) as leeches and enemies do draw poignant parallels to Nazi political tactics.

If you want to attack my views based on facts, historical trends, law, science, or any other meaningful thing, go for it. All you have is an attack on my character, which is stupid because this is the internet and you don't know jack about me. Moreover, it's what people do when they're empty-handed but want to win an argument by style.

45usp  ·  4403 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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thenewgreen  ·  4403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm guessing you had a good nights sleep ;)

45usp  ·  4403 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually went to bed only a little later than usual. It always takes hours for all precincts to report, and typically the more populous ones are later to report owing to logistical issues. So I'm fine with waiting. Falling asleep, I consoled myself with the hopes that if Obama won things would continue on their present course, whereas if Romney won a Democrat-controlled Senate would mitigate the amount of damage he could do in four years. I'm naturally happy Obama won, but I'm pretty disappointed that we still have a Republican-controlled House and now have a more Republican-dominated state. I used to pride myself on being fiercely independent, a 'switch hitter' I told people. But in the past few years Republicans have seriously gone off the rails with their hypocrisies, obstructionist tactics, blame shifting, support of utterly discredited economic theories, and their backwards moral agenda. I'm really happy Elizabeth Warren won in Massachusetts. I hope she goes far.