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PirateBear  ·  1696 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Maybe We Should Have Let the South Secede

Comparisons between where people "socially distanced" and where there are food deserts that require travelling for food. Excepting some outliers, pretty strong correlation.

I live in a major city in Georgia (not Atlanta). The nearest Wal-Mart is a 12 mile drive, and I have one Food Lion between me and it. If I order curbside pickup groceries from Wal-Mart, I come into contact with the person delivering my food and that's it. The absolute minimal exposure without ordering delivery (which most apps don't deliver where I live specifically). But I also just contributed 24 miles to this graph. If I go across the street and interact with dozens of people, spending a half an hour in FL, I contributed nothing.

I also see the county where I grew up in Tennessee, where half the population lives outside the small town and their weekly trip to the grocery store is a minimum of 15 miles. They will never be under an average of 2 miles, but they were already using the best practice of minimizing the number of trips out due to the necessity of it.

Don't get me wrong, the Southeast is long overdue for Shelter-in-Place orders and to do something to get people to take this seriously. The Governor of Georgia claims he just learned about asymptomatic spread 2 days ago. Florida's Governor still refuses to shut churches down, despite being a massive nexus for infection. The biggest cities in GA, FL, and LA really have the potential to get bad and officials in charge have done nothing to slow the spread or reinforce the medical system, even as people watch New York and Italy. Really hope the theory that the virus slows in warm weather is true, it might save a lot of people down here if it is.





kleinbl00  ·  1695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I live in a major city in Georgia (not Atlanta). The nearest Wal-Mart is a 12 mile drive, and I have one Food Lion between me and it.

I have experienced the exact same thing in Los Angeles and Phoenix. None of which shows up on this magical map. The NYT has data for "more travel" and "less travel" but when you dig into the numbers, "less travel" for Seattle" is from "miles" to "feet" whereas in Daytona Beach "less travel" is a 50% reduction.

The South loves to pretend that The South is special but The South is just more pugnacious than everyone else because they lost.

uhsguy  ·  1694 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah but that’s only possible in Seattle because amazon groceries, work from home and a whole host of other advantages. The people in the red areas might not be doing the best social distancing but they also have to go to work cause they are living in poverty having already spent next weeks pay check.

kleinbl00  ·  1694 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I said Los Angeles and Phoenix.

My beef with the prior post is the argument that only the South understands true suffering (wraps self in confederate flag) and fuck him, fuck you and fuck anyone else that thinks that poverty in fucking Tennessee is somehow more poor than poverty in fucking east LA.

ButterflyEffect  ·  1696 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You know, that's a really excellent point that I hadn't considered. Thanks for bringing that one up, I actually don't think I've seen that one anywhere and it makes a lot of sense. That said, those governors can go get fucked, such a failure of government.

OftenBen  ·  1696 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I wonder if there are any traits or behaviors that are associated with a higher risk of Covid-19 infection?