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mk  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I just gave Bernie Sanders $50, match me if you can!

Are they really though? If anything, it seems they have been willfully ignoring Yang.

I have no doubt that the Dems sidelined Bern in 2016, but what's the evidence that this is happening to him now? I haven't noticed him getting any less coverage than Warren. Biden obviously has some levers on the machine he can pull, but I don't see his coverage out of sync with the polls either.





OftenBen  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They can both sideline Bernie AND Yang.

The Democratic establishment is firmly tied to their money, and from what I can tell that means Biden, Buttigieg and Warren, in that order of preference.

mk  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    They can both sideline Bernie AND Yang.

Agreed. They nerfed Gabbard, and of course, they have the right to; they are a political party, not a government institution. But, is there evidence that it is happening to Bernie this time around? I've seen Yang left off lists that he should have been on, but not Bernie.

I am concerned that bots/RT/Zerohedge, etc., are working that narrative in an effort to reduce Dem turnout in November. I know first hand that ZH played a big role in converting my uncle from a Bernie supporter to a Trump voter. He emailed me tons of articles along the way.

ButterflyEffect  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is the classic issue with the dems over the past what? 20? 30 years? We’re arguing on Yang vs Bern as a case of better vs best (You decide who’s who) instead of rallying behind one candidate who will, even if not being a person personnel option A, “better” than an “R” or fucking Tulsi Gabbard.

Yeah Yang is great but he doesn’t have the visibility of Bern or Warren right now - why not make sure SOMEONE from D wins in 2020 and then figure out how to push for Yang for 2024 Jesus this isn’t that hard to figure out. Or is it?

mk  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it is that hard. Dems are cats, GOP are dogs, it seems.

Like I said, any one of the candidates that were in that last debate are swell with me. My least favored is probably Biden, but whatever, he has my vote.

I actually wish Klobuchar was polling better. She seems a very worthy candidate.

ButterflyEffect  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it becomes less hard when we acknowledge the behavior and recognize it as self defeating in the attempt to build and progress a better society (better how amirite).

OftenBen  ·  1791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Shrug.

Like you said, they make their own decisions.