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goobster  ·  1832 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How Google Interferes With Its Search Algorithms and Changes Your Results

    "...There's a large, black line between SEO manipulation and top-down manipulation of the algorithm..."

I don't agree at all. Search is a product; SEO is the attempt to game the programmatic weaknesses of that product.

There is no edict or diktat that requires Google Search to work in ONE way, for ever and ever. And it hasn't; the Farmer Update of 2011 is just one BIG example, but small tweaks happen almost constantly. I don't recall Google ever making a claim to be impartial... in fact, the whole benefit of their tool over other search methods was that its methodology was unknown and unpublished, and therefore was much harder to game. You might be able to for a bit, but they'd find out your trick, make a tweak, and now you are de-listed.





kleinbl00  ·  1832 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you are manipulating search through SEO you are steering a select few search strings to your pages. For example, you may be running SEO on the phrase "snow tires." That will not impact anyone who is not searching for snow tires. More than that, your motives are immediately transparent to the searcher and the search engine: you are attempting to connect to someone searching for snow tires.

If you are manipulating search through algorithmic manipulation you are steering everything. Sure - "most relevant results" yadda yadda. But if autocomplete on "Boeing is" comes out "An American company" on DuckDuckGo and "Doomed" on Google, do you really feel that Google should be able to do that? With 88% marketshare in search? As a publicly-traded company?

See, my snow tire SEO guy can't short Goodyear and then do his magic. Boeing? Yeah Boeing can short the shit out of Boeing. Or Bernie Sanders. Or Uyghurs. Or glysophate. Or vaccines.

goobster  ·  1831 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I guess we have different definitions we are working from, and that's where we are parting ways.

A search engine's sole goal is to help the customer find what they are looking for. Search for "snow tires" and get reviews of snow tires, manufacturers of snow tires, and installers of snow tires.

SEO's sole goal is to redirect that user's attention towards something possibly related (but probably not) in the effort to derail the user's initial intent. Same as advertising: Distract you from what you are doing, to get you to do something else. Search for "snow tires" and get "ski lift tickets".

SEO is the focused practice of derailing high quality search results, and distracting the searcher.

As such, any company that tweaks their algorithm to break SEO is someone I consider a friend.

kleinbl00  ·  1831 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're talking about a company that tweaks their algorithm to break public information.