a thoughtful web.
Good ideas and conversation. No ads, no tracking.   Login or Take a Tour!
comment by OftenBen
OftenBen  ·  2230 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

    Did you just "get" me? Did I just "get got?"

Not at all what I am trying to do.

I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview. A part of that is the willingness to vote blue team and not completely hate myself for doing it. Im trying to understand how these two things can be reconciled.

1. The repeal of Glass-Steagall opened pandora's box of financial fuckery that likely will never be able to be closed.

2. A Democrat president with a Democratic majority in both house and Senate not only allowed it to happen but encouraged and supported it.

And these are the people I am supposed to be giving my support to? You already know my opinion of lesser-evilism

I am envious of your apparently clean political conscience. I am in pursuit of one for myself.





kleinbl00  ·  2230 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview.

This is the lie you tell yourself. The insulting thing is that you think the rest of us are fooled. Not once, not twice but three times you've tried to swing this back to Clinton and his evil ways despite being told not once, not twice but three times that Clinton was tangentially involved at best, that it was a (famously and assiduously) Republican majority that repealed Glass Steagall.

What's really stupid is if you were even any good at your Plague On Both Your Houses schtick, you'd fuckin' look up some of those links I sent your way and go but but but it passed 90-8 that proooves they're all eeeeeeeeeevillllllll but you don't even have the conviction of your own bullshit to pay lip service to the debate. Which really just makes you an asshole besides.

Senate: 55R-45D. House: 227R-207D. Again, I've said this shit three times yet you sit there sputtering in your moral dudgeon and claim no really! "I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview."

For once and for all, fuck off with that shit. EVERY conversation with you has become "I hear you have some thoughtful discourse... FOR ME TO POOP ON" and I'm fuckin' done.

user-inactivated  ·  2230 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    And these are the people I am supposed to be giving my support to? You already know my opinion of lesser-evilism

Then you've ruled out the only answer anyone can give you.

OftenBen  ·  2230 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're saying that there is no positive case for voting Dem? That the only reason to vote Blue is because they aren't Red?

The best part of all of this is that I decided months ago to just vote blue team basically across the board regardless because it's necessary for the elimination of small problems. It also makes me complicit when an all blue majority decides to make another big fucking bad decision like the Glass-Steagall repeal.

user-inactivated  ·  2230 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure there are positive reasons to vote for Democrats. They don't generally want to put children in cages, prevent anyone who isn't old and white from voting, inject the bible into medicine and education, deregulate all the things even when it is obviously and stupidly self-destructive, ..., but you know all that. The Democrats are inadequate, and it is horrible that they're the best viable option. But they're the best viable option. See about helping out Mutual Aid Disaster Relief or something if you really want to try to change that. But also vote Capitalist Shill over Foaming At The Mouth Barbarian every two years too, because it's not like it's hard and more of the same really is better than outright malice.