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speeding_snail  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Montana to Michigan -How to travel 36 hours on a train and enjoy it.

I know that since I am from the Netherlands, I have a certain love for bicycles, but why not take the bike to work, school or even shopping? I think this is a viable alternative to driving your car everywhere, even in rural areas (except hilly areas, hilly areas are no fun when you ride a bike).





thenewgreen  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    why not take the bike to work, school or even shopping?
-There are plenty of people that do. My father lives about 7 miles from his work and during the spring, summer and fall he will often ride his bike to and from work.

I think it's important to note the difference in size between the Netherlands and the United States. Take a look at the above map, the state called New Jersey in the North East part of the map is a little over 1/2 the size of the Netherlands. The United States is a big country and in many parts of it, the towns are small and the populations are spread out. Sometimes for agricultural reasons and others by poor design, I suppose.

Some people have to drive many miles for "shopping" and a bicycle wouldn't be convenient. All this said, many people do commute by bicycle in the cities and even in smaller towns where it is permissible. However, some US cities are more bicycle friendly than others. In some cities there are bicycle lanes on the streets that make riding safer and more practical. The town where I live has created a trail that connects prominent areas, making bicycle travel more convenient. We are definitely behind Europe when it comes to fully embracing the bicycle as a means for practical transportation and not just recreation, but we are getting better imo.

There are just some parts of the country where it's not feasible.... and not just because of "hills".

speeding_snail  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Distance is indeed a problem. Bikes are nice when the distances are 10 to 15km, assuming an average speed of 15km/h. Biking many miles is most certainly no fun just to get some groceries. Add to that that you'll probably need to make multiple trips because a bike doesn't have a trunk, so no large carrying capacity and I can get why many people take the car.

I need to imprint in my mind that "rural" doesn't mean "polder", like it does here.

Thanks for the explanation. I don't have any questions remaining (I think).

driftingfocus  ·  4488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, rural in America can mean you're living 20-30 miles from anything. I have a friend in Wyoming who lives 60 miles (100km) down a dirt road. The nearest neighbor is a 20 minute drive.

mk  ·  4488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That has to be a strange way to live. Basically your friend is on an island. Without a car (or a horse?) he/she would need to walk about 3 hours to reach someone.

I would suppose that they generate their own electricity?

thenewgreen  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

mk, check out the above comment. Curious why the image doesn't render in the comment? Thanks.

mk  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have no idea what you are talking about.

JK. All good now.

thenewgreen  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

thanks pal.

mk  ·  4489 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's great when you can get credit for fixing what you broke. :)