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kleinbl00  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Old Handsign Meaning "OK" Triggers Girl Who Once Saw a Pepe Meme Doing It

    This is usually an inoffensive process.

[citation needed]

    We should aspire to be harder to offend.

So that those who excel at offensiveness must struggle harder?

    If people don't respond to it, it dies.

Right. If I don't tell my neighbor kid to stop throwing rocks at my windows, eventually he'll get bored, right?

It is the function of society to police its own boundaries, not to assume that no one will be affected if the worst among us are allowed to run rampant.

Freedom of speech is allowing the bottom-dwellers of 4chan to call each other whatever names they want. It's also allowing everyone else to tell them that it's decidedly not okay.

It's not okay.





OftenBen  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    So that those who excel at offensiveness must struggle harder?

Yes.

    If I don't tell my neighbor kid to stop throwing rocks at my windows, eventually he'll get bored, right?

Whose glass was broken because some people started throwing up 'OK' ?

If someone is directly harmed. If violent action is taken, that's one matter.

If a group of shitty middle schoolers suddenly decided that a given phrase or common part of speech actually means 'dicks' that does not mean that word changes meaning, unless everyone else acknowledges it and changes the way they behave because of it.

Call them idiots and move on.

kleinbl00  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A skilled rhetorician is one who can answer and defeat the argument of the opponent. A dishonest rhetorician is one who deflects, demurs, and ignores the arguments he can't win.

Your argument was that 4chan should be allowed to use offensive language because in a perfect world, no one would be offended by language. By your own assertion, those who excel at offensiveness must struggle harder, rather than those who are offended appreciating the moral right to be offended. Yet when asked for examples of how the process of linguistic change is usually painless, you are silent as fuck.

You're right of course. The United NiXXer College Fund is a well known niXXer charity, the KXke Defamation League keeps the Ashkenazi from prejudicial violence and one of my buddies in Los Angeles has a string of very successful gXXk restaurants because we live in a perfect world where language has no power.

    Whose glass was broken because some people started throwing up 'OK' ?

I love this style of rhetoric, too. "I'm sorry, I'm too stupid to understand your argument therefore everyone else is, too." It's like anti-logos. And the dumb thing is, you don't even see the counterargument fucking coming. it's like

"Hi, there. I'm gonna set up a Godwin's Law trap where the fucking name of the counterargument is out there in plain view. Care to step in it?"

"sure! Because I'm so blinded by my need to defend the rights of anyone to offend everyone that I'm not even going to consider historical precedent!"

"Great. Have some Nazis. Thank you, drive through."

And I'm truly sorry to have to bat you around like a fucking mouse, but jesus fucking christ, language can be offensive otherwise what would be the point? You are taking the logical position that those parts of linguistics we disagree with we should ignore as if it wasn't a statement of deep ignorance and you should feel bad.