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Zero2122  ·  2830 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is far-right populism winning in the Netherlands?

As far as I understand it, it's on the rise all over Europe. And a lot of that is the result of the needs of the EU being honoured above the needs of citizens, the immigration crisis, dodgy trade deals being made behind closed doors, people like George Soros.

I'm just an ordinary citizen in my country whose life has only become worse while politicians get fatter and drive more expensive cars and businessmen rape us for every last cent so maybe I don't completely understand all the issues but it's starting to look more and more like the 'left' and the 'right' swapped places somewhere along the line. The 'left' is looking more and more like an aristocracy as time goes by that does whatever the fuck they want regardless of what the people want or need. Censorship is on the rise, rights are being reduced and cultures are being trampled or treated like they don't exist because white people don't have cultures and should respect everyone else before themselves.

I used to be a 'fuck borders' kind of guy. Until I grew up a little and realised that the players pushing for globalisation aren't peaceful hippies that want love and understanding, the people pushing for it are crooked puppet politicians and businessmen that want less obstacles in their way to do whatever the fuck they want. I've been as far left as it gets at times but nationalism is starting to look more attractive as the days go by. It's starting to look like the antidote to a status quo that hadn't been grounded for a very long time. Besides, the 'left' is now associated more with concern trolls, identity politics and first world cry babies thinking they know best for everyone than it ever was before.

I'm not saying that I've picked a side, just trying to give some insight on the cause of it.





veen  ·  2829 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'm not saying that I've picked a side, just trying to give some insight on the cause of it.

My suggestion to you then is to reevaluate the different issues not based on the people / caricatures of people who support it (be it crooked politicians or peaceful hippies or anything in between) but more on their merits, taking nuance into account. I recently had quite a constructive conversation with someone leaning much farther to the right than myself about immigration and the discussion led me to understand not only his views and arguments better but also my own.

Zero2122  ·  2828 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well I mean honestly, I would probably consider myself an anarchist. But I realise that my vision of the world is utopian so I have no choice but to choose one devil over another devil. That doesn't change that I view them as devils though. I'm not so sure that even judging by merit would help my views of these people - politicians in this instance - that have no mastery or qualifications other than marketing and being successful at navigating the minefield of political jargon. If our 'leaders' were scientists I might take a side but otherwise the 'left' and the 'right' seem mostly the same to me. One way or another it all boils down to money. I've learnt this from flirting with green style activism and I've learnt this from history. Nothing is worthy of respect or consideration unless there is economic value, not as far as politics and laws are concerned. And I cannot respect that whether you call yourself democrat, socialist, capitalist or god's chosen people.

I honestly think I'm better off not choosing a side at all. That way I don't need to shift my morals and values depending on who happens to be wearing my colours and flying my flag at this moment.