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kleinbl00  ·  2848 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The next "snake oil" coffee company.

Entitled bullshit origin story: ✓

    Matros explains that in 2015, while he was on a yoga retreat in Bali, he took a tour of a coffee farm.

Utter disregard of science: ✓

    "With that clean coffee, we have low toxicity, and I think it's that low toxicity that really drives performance and productivity," says Matros. "We want to help people own the day and really win at productivity."

Bulletproof Coffee in there somewhere: ✓

    Fear of these mycotoxins — warranted or not — has freaked out some coffee drinkers in recent years and driven sales of the Upgraded coffee brand sold by Bulletproof coffee founder Dave Asprey. And that fear motivated Matros.

Although the next snake oil coffee company is Starbucks. It takes some marketing stones to juice coffee cherries, extract sugar from them, name the results after a laxative tree and then charge extra.

    Koelling is a plant evolutionary biologist. She grew up in Oregon, where she spent a lot of time learning the ways of the woods.

    “You needed to know what cascara looked like so you didn’t cut a marshmallow roasting stick from it,” Koelling said. “Because you would wind up squatting in the woods instead of enjoying your marshmallow.”





user-inactivated  ·  2848 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pretty certain the coffee roasting process takes care of all of the germs and mold. Either way, if this guy really cared about the conditions his food was in before it reached his table, he'd be limiting his diet significantly. Agriculture is dirty work. Some of it is dirtier than others, especially if we're talking about animals.

Case in point, pork. Ever been on a pig farm? Not a farm with pigs, but an actual pig farm? I know a guy who owns one and he tells me those fuckers are dirty, and I don't mean wallowing in mud dirty. I mean if you go into a building with 1000+ pigs, you will be overwhelmed by the smell. If you're there for any length of time, it permeates your clothes and your skin and you won't feel clean until you scrub like crazy. Know what smells delicious though? Sausage. I rest my case.

kleinbl00  ·  2848 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Had a boss who used to work in Idaho, designing AV systems. He got called onto a chicken farm once because they needed an audible alarm that could be heard 100 yards away. Apparently if the vent fans in a battery barn go out, and you don't have the secondaries switched on within a minute, the chickens all asphyxiate from the ammonia.

Which means, effectively, that battery barns output a 100% lethal stream of ammonia 24-7.

user-inactivated  ·  2848 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's something subtly magical about the wikipedia article on chicken manure.

Edit: Also, Imigongo.

bioemerl  ·  2846 days ago  ·  link  ·  
OftenBen  ·  2357 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This wonderful post has been waiting 489 days for me to discover it.

Laughed hard, thanks!

b_b  ·  2847 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Interesting challenge here, journalistically. Roger Cohen's column in today's Times made the point that "fact-based journalism" is what we used to call "journalism" and that there shouldn't be any other kind. Of course he was referring to more pressing issues than washed coffee, but this article is a good example of the erosion of evidence in favor or unfounded belief. The journalist goes out of her way to say that empirical evidence doesn't support this crackpot's claims, but she's still giving him a platform. And as we've seen, it's the platform that matters and not the message. Not that I'm comparing bogus claims about coffee to the START treaty necessarily, but I think this article points to the bigger issue that controversy is so much sexier than facts. If only the facts mattered here, there wouldn't be an article to speak of.

kleinbl00  ·  2847 days ago  ·  link  ·  
b_b  ·  2847 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the only reasonable tack for journalists to take is to start writing headlines that say, "Trump lies about X".

It lacks the decorum that most respectable publications would prefer, but these are not normal times and normal solutions aren't going to get us anywhere. If CNN, NYT, and NPR all started just routinely beginning stories with, "Today the administration lied about such-and-such," he would implode in a heartbeat. It's not a qualitative judgement if it's true, so call a liar a liar already. The naked truth might just liberate a bunch of other journalists from their need to be "balanced."