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b_b  ·  2934 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 6 minute slap in the face from a fellow liberal, courtesy Totalbiscuit

We'll have to agree to disagree about MI being full of rednecks.

I think the Left should give up its preoccupation with guns. The Left has lost on guns to the same extent that the Right has lost on social issues. Guns are a separate issue form crime, and crime would basically go away if economic opportunity were available in the inner cities. People don't turn to violence for the most part when they see a future.

I think, strategically speaking, that guns are hurting Democrats more than they're helping them. I suppose this is a non-starter for a lot of people in the party, however.





nothingleftinside  ·  2933 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I think the Left should give up its preoccupation with guns.

Hear hear. Each side needs to start dropping their wedge issues. Guns, immigration, abortion, LGBT issues, etc. We need to focus on the ones that common people can reach accord on- namely the economy and climate change.

kleinbl00  ·  2933 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm interested to hear why you think "the economy" and "climate change" are less divisive than all of your "etc."

nothingleftinside  ·  2930 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because they effect everybody, rather than certain classes. Also, everyone is pretty much on the same side with those issues. Everyone wants the economy to be doing well, not everyone wants abortion to be legal.

kleinbl00  ·  2930 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Everyone is very much not "on the same side" when it comes to climate change. Everyone wants the economy to be doing well, but the way to get there is one of the most controversial subjects there is. When even George Bush calls "supply side economics" "voodoo economics" and when half the opinions on the Fed are "abolish it" you can't call "the economy" an issue that everyone agrees on.

Likewise, climate change. Sure - the majority of the polled public professes a belief in climate change. But the majority of voters (and lobbyist money) doesn't break down that way.