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kleinbl00  ·  2950 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: George Hotz cancels Comma One because of NHTSA letter

It would be a herculean labor to convince me that any "startup" has access to or has put the effort into training a car to drive in such a way that won't lead to tragedy.

I include Tesla in that grouping.

I do not believe that on-the-job training for any neural network won't kill way too many people unless you offer people the sensors for free and compare real-time human decisions with projected neural network decisions until you have near-total overlap over millions and millions of miles driven. Tesla could be doing that but I don't think they would have let the monster loose as early as they did if they'd taken this approach.





thundara  ·  2950 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    It would be a herculean labor to convince me that any "startup" has access to or has put the effort into training a car to drive in such a way that won't lead to tragedy.

    I include Tesla in that grouping.

Ditto, though it seems like Google has at least taken that approach. I'm a little surprised that Tesla skipped the line on the regulation. Maybe something to do with the legalese of how the feature is offered?

kleinbl00  ·  2950 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Google has no interest in selling cars. Google will license their dataset and path-following technology (because that's what they're building) to anybody who wants to pay the fees, thereby allowing anyone and everyone to hop onto a crowdsourced traffic system rather than building "autonomous vehicles."

Tesla mostly wants to sell batteries and battery-powered cars. They do that by being innovative and a leader in the industry. They're largely appealing to rich eccentrics (for now) but Tesla's exit is probably to another car company. Elon Musk never wanted to be Henry Ford; his spiritual hero is DD Harriman. I think he's said as much although I can't find a source at the moment.