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YourMatt  ·  2979 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Presidential Debate Thread

Sorry, this is probably a silly question, but I haven't followed the "birther" topic at all even when it was commonly in the news. What connection does it have to race? If you're not a born citizen of the US, then you can't be president of course, but I haven't seen how race was a factor since the same issue of an unreleased birth certificate could have applied if Obama was white.





user-inactivated  ·  2979 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Obama is a secret Muslim, his middle name is Hussein after all. Even though he was an active member in a Black Nationalist Evangelical Christian Church for 20 years. He was born in Africa, because he is black (and in Kentucky people believe this shit) even though his birth was better documented than my mom's; his birth announcement was in the papers and his mother was a patient in the hospital. This all at the same time that the guy he is running against. McCain, WAS NOT BORN IN THE USA Note for citizenship, if your parents are in the military and you are born on a military isntallation, you are considered a natural US citizen. Ted Cruz, interestingly enough is not a natural US citizen.

The "Birther" people are mostly racist. I say this as someone who has daily interactions with multiple birthers. And he is a Democrat, so all slander against him is fair game.

ecib  ·  2979 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah I forgot about that too. McCain was actually born outside the country and wasn't subjected to this. You're brown and born here you're not actually one of us. You're white and born in another country you're as American as apple pie.

ecib  ·  2979 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah, yeah. So basically The birther movement began out of the alt-right and white nationalist movement here in the US. it was this massive years long smear campaign directed at the first black president that wasn't directed at other presidents. He was born in the US, there was never even a HINT of a suggestion that he wasn't, his state birth certificate was publicly available in short form, and he even released the long for version because of the conspiracy. All this is stuff that no white candidate was forced to do, not even ones like Ted Cruz, whom it is well known was actually born in Canada. It has as much to do with the people pushing the conspiracy as it does the asymmetrical standard applied to him. And again, even when he produced his long form birth certificate DJT continued to publicly push the notion that he wasn't American for years and years after.

user-inactivated  ·  2979 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I live where the Birther people are loud and proud. Almost every one of them is an Evangelical, ALL of them are far right wing and most of them are what I would call extremely racist. There are even some black preachers here in the Ohio Valley who call him a Muslim from Africa because of Obamacare murdering nego babies in Planned Parenthood Abort-o-Plexes. Link to the crazy