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comment by newgameplus
newgameplus  ·  4532 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Fight Against Misogyny in Gaming Enlists Some Big Names
You're obscuring the issue.

The point is he was devaluing her. Specifically in a manner that has no male equivalent. That is sexist.

The environment that allows for such an insult to be made is irrelevant to the fact that he actually made the insult. The fact that sexism exists in other media (which by the way you are entirely wrong about, movies, tv and books have been criticized similarly for decades) is irrelevant to the fact that he made the insult.

    Saying something along the lines of, "All you're good for is whoring out" or something is sexist.
That is basically exactly what he said. "Could you be considered nothing more than a glorified booth babe? You don't seem to add anything creative to the medium." That all her accomplishments are meaningless, and that all she does is sell sex to the extent that booth babes do.




Hellsadvocate  ·  4532 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Even if the comment was sexist, how is that representative of the entire industry? Ofcourse there are no male equivalents. Sex sells, and these models are there to garner the attention of a primarily male audience. Look at commercials aimed towards women or even movies aimed towards women. Highly attractive men are usually present. Sex sells. In using it to sell, it does not make the profession sexist. You devalue an individual by judging their worth by their career choice. This is not sexist, but just a dismissive view of modeling to sell stuff. That's the insult, not that women in general have nothing to give besides looks. I don't see a single part of his rant implying anything of that likeliness.

What are her accomplishments in the medium? You listed the Guild, how has that moved gaming forward, has she created the next half life? She might have some influence and might have brought some change in the gaming medium, but has done little to actually progress it.

newgameplus  ·  4532 days ago  ·  link  ·  
You're attacking arguments I'm not making. My only point is what he said was a sexist attack.
Hellsadvocate  ·  4532 days ago  ·  link  ·  
And mine is that you are reading a connotation in his attack that doesn't exist. Mountain out of a molehill. You'd do better to attack portrayal of women in games than one idiots rant (who by the way, was fired.)