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kleinbl00  ·  3105 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I'm proud to be Armenian on a day like this.

Ataturk, secular reformer that he was, being the man responsible for the aforementioned genocide...





coffeesp00ns  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

well, I never said I liked him.

edited^^ misread you.

the point I'm trying to get across is that he, like basically all politicians, is trying to use monoliths of national history for his won ends while denying them when they are inconvenient or don't fit his desires.

He's just doing an overly obvious and bad job of it.

He's continuing the denial of the Armenian genocide not just because that's the party line in Turkey, but also because it shows him as a defender of Turkey on the world stage to his constituents. At the same time, He's doing things that are the opposite of the reforms that the same Ataturk was a part of because they don't fit his desires (eg secularism). He's trying to play both sides of the myth, both "Ataturk did nothing wrong" and "Ataturk was wrong about this".

It's like he's not even trying to hide the man behind the curtain.

kleinbl00  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And by "he" you mean Erdogan? Yeah, I think he's a one-trick demagogue. Problem is,

And he's big on the Mohammedism.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

yeah, sorry. I was unclear there. I do mean Erdogan.

... is that Gwen Stefani sitting next to Owen Wilson?

kleinbl00  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

coffeesp00ns  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm dying.

kleinbl00  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

First one I made. Second one I found.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

also, speaking of memes, I just found out that 8675309 is prime.

kleinbl00  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This warms the cockles of my heart.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3104 days ago  ·  link  ·  

that somehow makes it even better that you didn't make it.