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OftenBen  ·  3121 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: When Did Optimism Become Uncool?

    Such can-do, better-future thinking needs to make an appearance in the 2016 presidential campaign.

Sorry all I'm hearing from that is 'Feel good about a $Hillary Clinton presidency! Get excited about a $Hillary Clinton presidency!'





cgod  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't even know what you mean or who you are listening to.

OftenBen  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Which candidate should I be excited about again? The way I understand the process to function, Sanders is mathematically incapable of beating $Hillary at this point. Super delegates control the process. I refuse to hold the 'Watch the world burn' pro-trump view.

The best of all possible bad options is still not good.

user-inactivated  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The second red scare was only 60 years ago. This year a socialist almost got the Democratic nomination.

b_b  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you understand the part of the process where Mrs. Clinton has received literally millions of more votes than Mr. Sanders? Super delegates are symbolic and have little to nothing to do with why she will be the nominee.

veen  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also thought that, when superdelegates aren't considered, Sanders would likely be the nominee. Are the super delegates not a big reason why she's ahead right now?

b_b  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

As it stands, Clinton has 1716 and sanders 1433 pledged delegates, which is roughly in line with the 56% of the vote she's won. If anything, sanders is slightly over represented in the delegate count, as he's won 42% of the vote (or thereabouts) and has 46% of delegates. Would we in the US really benefit from having someone who loses the popular vote by several million be the nominee? I don't think we would. Super delegates will only come into play if they switch their support to sanders.

cgod  ·  3120 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Were you naive and expected some outcome other than that which we are getting out of the presidential process? Are you sad now? is that what you are trying to say?

Did you get kicked in the head by a horse and now you need to put a dollar sign in front of Hillary's name every time you write it? If that's what happened get treatment because it's fucking annoying.

Sounds like you sad in the pants optimist and you should really get over it. This is the wages of optimism, big frowny faces.