I find it funny that the typical argument of "actions should be judged by their effect on the larger system" when discussing "punching down" but then all that disappears the moment a topic like this comes up, and the system is suddenly hypocritical for lesser sentences for a random guy vs someone in an active terrorist group. Well, no, I don't find it funny, I just find it interesting.
I'm curious what we're missing. Either things are crazy imbalanced against muslims or the "turned out to be inert" bomb turned out to not even vaguely be a bomb. KRON reports 55-year-old William Celli, an admirer of Republican front-runner Donald Trump, pleaded guilty last week to a charge that he attempted to violate the free exercise of civil rights. In exchange for his guilty plea, the Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office has dropped a charge of making criminal threats as a hate crime. So you've got a racist nutbag shouting he's gonna kill people as they leave the mosque. You get a tip that he's building bombs and you show up. Turns out the self-employed plumber has a lot of pipe lying around and... probably oughtta bomb-squad that shit just to be safe but as it turns out it's just pipe. I mean... hate crime for sure. "violating the free exercise of civil rights" seems weak but I reckon that if they could have made the "bomb" thing stick, it woulda stuck. DEFINITELY would have made a lot more news had it been a muslim man threatening Pentecostals but I'm not entirely certain we're dealing with Carlos the Jackal reborn here.A California man charged with possessing an explosive device and threatening to kill Muslims will spend 90 days in jail and serve three years probation after accepting a plea deal.
Celli, a self-employed plumber, made a series of xenophobic, Islamophobic and pro-Trump Facebook posts in the months leading up to his arrest.
I would like to think if they are claiming an explosive device was inert it's not because it was actually empty pipes. What I could buy is that maybe he knew the device wouldn't work and that he was making it to throw into a crowd just to scare them. I still think that's extremely fucked up even if the damage is all psychological. Even if that was the case I think he should get a lot more than 90 days.
That's what "inert" means in bomb-squad talk: "not a bomb." "inert weaponry" means "it looks like a weapon but isn't." And here we are in complete agreement.What I could buy is that maybe he knew the device wouldn't work and that he was making it to throw into a crowd just to scare them. I still think that's extremely fucked up even if the damage is all psychological. Even if that was the case I think he should get a lot more than 90 days.
Alright, that makes more sense. When you said pipe lying around I didn't figure you meant pipe dressed up to look explosive. Mainly I think he should get more because it was would hopefully detract people from copying the guy. On the other hand maybe if that is what happened they made a point not to tell the media every detail so as to detract people from copying... And here we are fucking everything up.
Should trying and failing to make a bomb really be a lesser crime then trying and succeeding to make a bomb? If it was a Muslim man police would have shot and killed him. White terrorist lives and gets only 90 days in jail.
Edit: nevermind. I've had PMs with enough lieutenants of the Fempire to know that the goal isn't discourse, it's discord... and to know that the troglodytes left aren't in on the joke, they're part of it. I feel foolish for not seeing the pattern.
Good job defending a literal terrorist buddy.