then you're insane. I recognize that the hipster rhetoric on Hillary Clinton is "no better than the Republicans" but I hope you understand that you look like an ignorant, spoiled tween when you say shit like that. I'd love the opportunity to vote for Bernie Sanders but at the same time, I recognize that Sanders has only gotten three bills enacted in 25 years in office (two of which were for renaming post offices). Granted - a tiny percentage of bills ever make law but Hillary tried to pass Obamacare in '94 - back in Gingrich's "Contract with America" was just getting wound up, back when the Republicans shut down the government the first time. She's a three-term senator, a Secretary of State and a political animal who had decades of experience before you were born. That's a picture of Hilary Rodham delivering impeachment charges against President Nixon. In case you were wondering. Five years previous she'd spent the summer working at a cannery in Alaska. So. either you are sarcastic when you say that, and are actually a member of the thinking human race, or you aren't sarcastic when you say that, and are an uneducated, petulant child. Which has a couple advantages - after all, you can a) school yourself and b) grow up. Either way, know that if you flippantly drop Tea Party talking points like we're on Little Green Footballs I'm going to fact-check your every statement. Violently. With prejudice.
First, me being insane is not news. I posted the 'Hur dur, drumpf es numero uno' just to try and be lighthearted, but I do not understand why everyone is so eager to be pro-Hillary. I understand 100% that, all things considered, she is the lesser of two evils. I understand that, taken in isolation, her resume is damn fine. But choosing the lesser does not make it good, and it's all too easy to obfuscate the two when there are people who are HAPPY to vote for Hillary. I'm against dynastic politics as well as big money influencing the electoral process, with is far and above the largest reason I'm bothering to vote at all, because Sanders is at least going to TRY. Hillary is in favor of both of those things it seems. With Obama there wast at least some promise of deviation from status quo. I think it was first on Hubski I saw the phrase 'Shit don't stick to a Clinton.'
I think the "everyone is eager to be pro-Hillary" because at least our #2 choice isn't fuckin' Ted Cruz, you know? And because some of us sat through the 2000 election and listened without breathing as NPR announced (on our commute home, with a Florida minivan driving like shit in front of us) that Scalia et. al. had given away our democracy. Maybe this won't break your heart; it broke many of ours: There's definitely a seething vein of anti-establishment discontent running through the country. It comes from 30 years of bush clinton bush bush clinton bush clinton bush clinton. Amazing thing is, I remember when the Clintons were outsiders. Governor of Arkansas? Who are you kidding? '91 was a miasma of "bubba" jokes and the constantly repeated fact that the redneck used to own an El Camino with astroturf in the bed (the Rhodes scholar part, not so much). You know how you go from outsider to insider? Don't suck at your job. You need to understand that the Clintons have been the subject of more than 25 years of constant character assassination. Kennedy fucked Marylin Monroe, failed to invade Cuba and damn near started a nuclear war and a crazy redneck capped his ass after three years and he's a fuckin' saint. Clinton? Drew down the Yugoslav civil war, gave us 8 years of peace and boosted the economy higher than it had been in a generation. But we had to spend 3 fuckin' years finding out that he wasn't so good at land deals back in the '70s, we had to suffer through Rush Limbaugh claiming constantly (on TV!) that the Clintons had VInce Foster killed because he was going to give away their secret drug runways in Arkansas, and then we had to spend a year and a fuckin' half finding out that the president got a blowjob from a kind-of chunky intern, and now here you are, losing your shit because clearly clintons are HORRIBLE PEOPLE. Look. I'd love to live in a world where Bernie Sanders has a hope in hell of running the country. Fuckin' A I'll bet Hilary Clinton would, too. But those of us who live out here? In this world? People "don't trust" Hilary Clinton. Why? "something something emails." Okay - this is a woman who Congress spent $40m fishing around for something to bust her husband for. She was a senator on the intelligence committee and the Secretary of State. And all that filthy Snowden shit we all found out about? Yer damn skippy she knew about it. And here we are, condemning the woman for running her own server. This is a Citizens United world. Big Money is going to influence politics. This is the 24-hour news cycle. There will be dynasties. Fuckin' A. It's amazing that we're now holding it against Hillary Clinton that she's done this shit before. Bernie Sanders assumed national office one year BEFORE Bill Clinton. Up until last year, he was "that crank from Vermont that everybody loves." In the interim, Hillary Clinton has been the first lady, a Senator (who introduced 417 bills) and the Secretary of State. And yeah - it's hard to get something done when you're the lone wolf howling in the woods. But you know what? It's hard to get something done when you're the lone wolf howling in the woods. I watched Carter get crushed in 1980. I even remember the October Surprise. It SUCKS when you're guy can't do shit because the other team is cheating. By the way, here's Hillary, helping out Roslyn Carter on the campaign. So okay. You'd rather vote for somebody else. That's fine. But when you compare number two to donald fucking trump you're basically calling the rest of us jackasses. We're not. We just have more perspective than you..jpg)
This is a problem though, because she became an insider with the criminals in wall street. I don't want an insider at all. I don't have kids, why not flip the boat and build a new one from the flotsam?You know how you go from outsider to insider?
Don't suck at your job.
Not true. Hillary was on the board of Walmart since like '84. The Clintons pushed hard for NAFTA. Hell - Hillary volunteered for the Goldwater campaign before she impeached Nixon before she volunteered for the Carter campaign. Business interests have always been her bag. People who think that somehow Clinton shifted right aren't paying attention - Clintons did what Clintons do, but they had an easier time getting the Republican stuff passed. Once more with feeling: I agree far more with Sanders' politics. Most idealists do. But realists also recognize that an idealist in the real world for 30 years either compromises a fuckload or accomplishes nothing. I think it's fair to say that Bill and Hillary Clinton are centrists that support free trade and minimal government involvement in commerce, and have been for lo these many decades. I also think it's fair to say that most of us are not centrists that support free trade and minimal government involvement in commerce. But if I'm going to have someone in charge of worker rights, tariffs and trade I'd much rather they be a centrist that tried to pass universal healthcare than a walking tan line that thinks Mexico is going to build his wall. I also think you don't have a real conception of what "flipping the boat" looks like. We're spoiled in this country - we can whine about pallets of hundred dollar bills vanishing into Iraq or universal nuclear disarmament scuttled in favor of Star Wars but at least those were establishment Republicans with the backing of the Machine. Trump? I mean, did you see Christie's eyes? The world never CTRL-ALT-DELs cleanly. If you have the choice between a soft landing and a hard one, choose soft.
So we're back to coercion. Toe the line and worship Shillary or else drumpf es numero uno BR HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE and the world ends in nuclear fire because sanders is an unelectable idealist. Remind me why I should vote again? I'm also not conceding the point about being in bed with wallstreet. It's telling that she won't release those transcripts, and they give her boatloads of money directly and indirectly. If it's good for the financier class it's almost definitionally bad for everybody who isn't one.
No, we're back to "stop pretending that those of us who support realistic centrist government over the Short Fingered Vulgarian are imbeciles that lack values." Because you lost that one. Go ahead and not vote - see if I give a fuck. But realize that a candidate that doesn't take money is either A) an independently-wealthy billionaire or B) ineffectual. And that I know this, and you don't, doesn't make you pure, it makes you ignorant. Stop being ignorant.
I don't. I think you need more idealism so you can be equally as pissed as me when hillary wins, in addition to being relieved that the psycho and his anarchist party loses. No one should celebrate any outcome of this election. I'm just popping balloons a little early, instead of 8 years later after we're done with 'Basically Obama 2.0 but a woman.'"stop pretending that those of us who support realistic centrist government over the Short Fingered Vulgarian are imbeciles that lack values."
I'm gonna guess you were what? 15 when the economy collapsed in 2007? I was trying to make a living in Los Angeles with a mortgage in Washington and a recent college grad attempting to start a new business. The fact that I got to do that in a recession, rather than a depression, is entirely due to your buddy "thanks Obama." Know what? Pop your own damn balloons. Because when you keep responding to facts with sour grapes, the only thing you're doing is demonstrating you don't want to listen.
I think it's difficult for young people who weren't alive or aware during the "Harry and Louise" Hillarycare days to appreciate what a coup the Affordable Care Act is. The law is far from perfect, but we will look back in twenty or thirty years and view Obama's presidency as an inflection point. Whether she's ever president, Mrs. Clinton deserves a lot of credit for that law.