You're very welcome! I wish I could remember where I heard it the first time. But I find it very accurate to describe my attitude towards exercise. To quote Stranger in a Strange Land (Because I don't do that enough) My earliest training taught me that physical exertion, especially exertion that caused me to sweat or raise my heart rate and blood pressure was to be avoided by any and all means necessary. To intentionally, independently and regularly exercise I am fighting a decade and a half of 'Don't exert yourself!' and a half-decade of sneering at 'gym rats.'"It is almost impossible to shake off one's earliest training. Duke, can you get it through your skull that if you had been brought up by Martians, you would have the same attitude toward eating and being eaten that Mike has?"