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wasoxygen  ·  3241 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Nestle is being sued for 'using child slaves on cocoa farms'

    I also think that all of the people watering their lawns in a drought should be fined.

You mean they should simply pay for the water they use? I think charging market prices for water is an excellent idea. It would tend to make the price of water higher during a shortage, encouraging conservation and discouraging waste. It would also provide incentive to move water from where it is more abundant to where it is scarce. But we are getting ahead of ourselves....

    a state that can't provide 3.8% of its residents with reliable clean water has got some big problems

So we agree that California is an imperfect distributor of water. But as the entity which claims authority over all the water in the state, and collects taxes to pay for water handling and distribution, the state assumes the default "compare to" role.

How does Nestlé compare to California?

    If they [Nestlé] were giving the water away I might consider a change of opinion.

That would be great! I would also admire someone who spends their own money to provide free water to people who desperately need it. We could give them the gold medal and consider the discussion concluded. But surely no one in our selfish, greedy world would do such a thing, so we are stuck with California and Nestlé.

    they're a company whose choices I don't agree with

So let's examine the choices California and Nestlé make.

California takes money from residents, whether they like it or not, and spends that money on water services, whether residents approve of them or not. This is very similar to California's Paid Family Leave program, which I found had questionable benefit for workers, and clearly harmed poor workers.

Similarly, thousands of the poorest residents in California had no running water last year. "This year, the state has set aside $19 million to be spent on emergency drinking water." One program installs 2,500-gallon tanks outside homes to hold drinking water. But there is red tape:

    Applicants need to prove ownership of the house, open their home to a site assessment, and more—with each step of the process involving a days or weeks long queue. Some 1,300 homes still don't have tanks installed.

There is a trust issue as well.

    When the portable showers were first installed in front of the church, says Lockman, many people suspected they were an immigration enforcement trap. Some parents haven't been sending their children to school, having heard that child welfare services would take away kids from families that don't have running water.

Meanwhile, California made it a crime for restaurants to serve an unrequested glass of water, or for people to wash their car too often.

Now, the other side.

Nestlé spends its own money to source, purify, and bottle water. Nestlé spends its own money determining where water is wanted. Nestlé spends its own money delivering the water to those places and making deals with retailers. Anyone who is not completely satisfied with California's water provision may freely choose to take advantage of the water Nestlé offers for sale. They may also choose to ignore Nestlé's offer, at no cost to themselves. There is little fear that picking up a bottle of Deer Park will result in la migra coming to take away your children.

It's easy to complain about Nestlé's "tremendous markup." An activist who wanted to actually help with the problem would compete with Nestlé, undercutting their prices and making life better for water consumers and themselves at the same time.

If some households are really spending 10% of their income on bottled water, it shows there is a dire need that the state is not meeting. Nestlé is doing something to meet that need. Can we imagine that these consumers would be better off if Nestlé disappeared?

No, but we can entertain another fantasy.

    If they [Nestlé] were giving the water away I might consider a change of opinion.

A quick search might be in order.

Nestlé Waters Canada donates over $60-thousand in bottled water

Nestle donates 80,000 litres water to Sindh heat stroke affectees

Nestlé Nigeria Donates Water Boreholes To Orile-Imo Community

Nestle Pakistan donates 78,000 liters water for flood victims

Chennai floods: Companies like Nestle India, ITC donated 150 tonne food items for victims

East Porterville gets 100,000 bottles of water

Nestlé Pure Life Donates Water To Texas Youth Football

Those are from news outlets; Nestlé boasts of millions of bottles of donated water on their site.

http://www.nestle-watersna.com/en/csv/community/relief-efforts

http://www.nestle-waters.com/creating-shared-value/water-for-health/disaster-relief