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comment by galen

Look, if you wanna make a reasoned argument that capitalism is better than communism/Marxism or whatever, go for it. But if you're just going to mock ideas you disagree with, please take your comments elsewhere.





Kafke  ·  3264 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have nothing against it. I'm just saying it won't work without either a complete dictatorship where there's not much freedom, or a society where people aren't required to work (aka a fully automated society).

In a post-singularity society, it works great. And the idea/appeal of it is great.

But either way my comment was more of pointing out that the article doesn't have much to do with the internet itself as it does hating capitalism. I clicked for an article on the internet, not communism.

galen  ·  3264 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See like that's reasonable, and I even agree with you on when communism works. Even though I think the article is about the internet (just maybe more about its place in the context of our society), I respect what you're saying. Just next time you could frame it better (than that first comment).

Thanks :)

Kafke  ·  3264 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea, I apologize for that first comment. It was more of a snarky knee-jerk response of running across an anti-capitalism article when I just wanted to read cool stuff about the internet and the pirate bay guys.

I mean, it's pretty obvious they're anti-capitalism, but still. By "win this fight for the internet" I imagined they were talking about the rampant DMCA shit, random government takedowns of websites, etc. Not "ahh! people want to use capitalism on the internet!"

Obviously the internet itself is more in line with communism ideals, and indeed we see a natural push that way just in terms of how things function here. The problem is that it doesn't jive with modern society, and that capitalism is useful for getting to a state where communism can take over.

Capitalism doesn't work 'late game' but communism doesn't really work 'early game'. You need to make the switch at some point. And certainly the internet and automation will greatly help with that.

But to write off capitalism as evil and bad for the internet is silly. Most of the internet is literally piggybacking off of capitalism.