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mk  ·  4591 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Peter Jackson Responds to 'Hobbit' Footage Critics, Explains 48-Frames Strategy
I'm more disturbed by 3D than 48fps. 3D still looks gimmicky to me. It doesn't feel like I am in the movie, it feels like I am watching a 3D movie. If anything, it is less immersive.

I'm willing to bet that 48fps won't be a big deal.





thenewgreen  ·  4591 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I agree that 3D can be like that when in the wrong hands. My guess is that the best directors don't change one thing regarding cinematography and just use it to enhance what they would have done regardless. The only thing that bothers me about 3D is having to wear glasses. It's obnoxious.

Nothing will ever trump a well told story though. Jackson's proven he can tell Tolkien's classics well. I'm pretty excited for these. I recall you have recently re-read the Hobbit, I'm guessing your excited for these as well.

mk  ·  4591 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Yes, I will be watching them. I had forgotten so much about The Hobbit. It was worth rereading. It is really a different kind of story compared to LoTR, -quite a bit sillier. It will be interesting to see what Jackson does.
thenewgreen  ·  4591 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Dwarves make everything a bit sillier. Gimli was probably the "silliest" character in the LotR movies imo. He may make it a bit darker, I'm interested too and I plan to re-read them just prior to release.
cgod  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Gimli was fucking abhorrent. Dwarves are bad mofos, not jesters. If there was anything in the LotR films that really took me out of the story it was bullshit like "dwarf tossing." It really made me incredibly angry that Jackson inserted terrible cheap jokes instead of telling the tale as it was told. I understand editing out material to fit the the format, but adding extraneous, dated, bigoted material was a bad move on his part. In one hundred year I'm sure that "dwarf tossing" will be a "sport" outside of the most viewers understanding, dumb ass thing to put into a timeless classic.
thenewgreen  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
"Not the beard, not the beard"! -Horrible line too
thenewgreen  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I agree that Gimli was essentially the Jar-Jar of the LotR series (though nowhere near as bad). The Dwarf tossing line was extremely weak. I'm not sure it's going to be as detrimental to the legacy of the films as you do. Overall, I'd say Jackson did a pretty great job with the material. It's incredibly dense stuff and from a birds eye view he was pretty true to the feel. Tom Bombadill aside -though I admit this is a BIG aside.
cgod  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I don't think it's going to be detrimental to the legacy. When making a timeless classic, generally people try to avoid dated pop culture memes. "dwarf tossing" had no place in the original work and I think a significant percentage of the society looks at that "game" as degrading. It was just bad form.

The rest of the dwarf humor isn't nearly as bad, but it was Jackson own addition to the story, one that he would have been better off making.

thenewgreen  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Agreed. I found myself not liking Gimli in the film which was a shame because I loved him in the books. Looking forward to the Hobbit!
mk  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
The weird thing is that most of the stupid Gimli shit was in only one of the three movies. I agree the dwarf tossing made me cringe.
cgod  ·  4590 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Wow I guess I've been holding that in, nice to get it off my chest. It bothered me almost as much as Jar Jar Binx and Midi-clorians.