a thoughtful web.
Good ideas and conversation. No ads, no tracking.   Login or Take a Tour!
comment by astol
astol  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Kobe's 2012 Season Pushes Him Past Jordan
HAHAHAHA. I laugh in the face of this... abomination of an article.

Blasphemy, I dont think so, Jordan accepts all challengers. but let me point out a few things:

   "During his career, Jordan won six NBA titles. Bryant currently has five. Jordan's championship performances are the gold standard in basketball, but Bryant holds the same competitive attitude and has the hardware to prove it. "
Take note, Bryant has 1 less title than Jordan. Not a huge factor, but still a point to note. What really gets me here is the last sentence. Jordan IS the gold standard, Kobe has "the attitude" to be competitive. Jordan played in an era with some of the best player to ever play the game. Kobe's early career was amongst some decent players, but not the calibre of what Jordan faced. There is so much I can and want to put into this, but I'll keep it short and hit you with some figures.

Jordan Career: 30.1ppg @ 49.7 FG% 6.2rpg 5.3apg 2.3stl 0.8bpg 2.7to and only 1.7 Three Point Attempts Per Game.

Best Season: Age 23, 3rd season in. 37.1ppg @48.2%, 5.2rpg, 4.6apg, 2.9stl, 1.5bpg with only 66 TOTAL 3pa

Kobe Career: 25.4ppg @ 45.3 FG% 5.3rpg 4.7apg 1.5stl 0.5bpg 3.0to and 3.9 3pa per game

Best Season: Age 27, 10th season in 35.4ppg @45%, 5.3 rpg, 4.5apg, 1.8stl, 0.4bpg, with 518 TOTAL 3pa

My point - Jordan was more efficient, and better in almost all aspects of the game (including defence). That is all.





krisc  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Not to mention Jordan came out of retirement and completely dominated the league again, something Kobe has yet to do.
astol  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Not once, but twice. look at his first full season back since the '94 retirement, the Bulls went 72-10. Unbelieveable. And look at the opponents, many getting 60+ W's in the same season, so not easy competition.

Then with the Wizards, came back in his late 30's/early 40's and still dominated. The man is a living legend, and one that will be near impossible to top.

thenewgreen  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·  
You make a strong case, I'm not a big NBA fan but I was in the days of Jordan. I find it hard to believe that anybody will ever be that good or have that great of an impact on the game again.
astol  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I'm sorta hoping someone can and will make a strong challenge to Jordan down the track, much like Kobe has. It keeps the game interesting and great to watch. Kobe, LeBron... they can/do come close, but so far, close isnt really all that close. For the foreseeable future, Jordan is GOAT. Perhaps forever. (I hope!)