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comment by b_b

    ...I would never buy an ELR.

Yeah you and literally almost every other person in America. They sold like 900 of them through the first 6 months of 2014, which is the last time I looked. That was after dropping the price by $9,000 or something. Talk about waaaaaaay over priced. Most dealers refused to even keep them in the showroom.





kleinbl00  ·  3356 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Might have been Automobile Magazine that pointed out that buying an ELR was like buying two Chevy Volts and getting only one, and nobody wants to buy a Volt.

dublinben  ·  3356 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Spending 80% of a Tesla Roadster to get 20% as good of a vehicle. No wonder they didn't sell any.

b_b  ·  3356 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not anywhere near the same segment as the Tesla Roadster, so it's not really an apt comparison. The reason it didn't sell is because they were trying to make a luxury car based on fuel economy. That's a hard marketing job (because people who buy luxury cars don't give a fuck about fuel economy), and a niche that apparently doesn't need to be filled.

dublinben  ·  3356 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right. I meant to compare it to the Model S, which is actually the same price. People who buy luxury sedans might not care about fuel economy, but they'll certainly buy an electric car.

b_b  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Model S is a performance level toy. GM made the same mistake that you're making by comparing the two. Namely, thinking that rich people wanted an eco model. So, they made a really high end hybrid, because they know how to make hybrids. But if rich people wanted that then Lexus would have beat them to it like ten years ago. Lexus didn't do that, because they apparently are smart enough to understand that Tesla's success is in trading on the faux-eco brand with Mac-like coolness, while still offering a fuckload of horsepower and torque. They're not similar.