They're not innovators, but they're sure as hell good at what they do. When I use Apple stuff, that shit just works. I don't have to think about it. I don't have to manage programs draining the battery like crazy, or whether what I'm going to use is compatible with X or Y or any of that shit. They are TERRIBLE grandstanders. You are right. But ya can't deny the quality (and marketing), and that's why they're still successful.
From a personal perspective I have never owned a functioning apple product for longer than a few months. I switched to iphone a while back and ended up going through four iphones before I ended up switching back to android. I feel like in some regard it is an overstatement of the quality of their products. I'm not saying android is any better, but I honestly don't think the quality between apple products and lets say Microsoft/Samsung is as different as it is painted in media. I only have anecdotal evidence to go off though, so obviously this isn't something to take as gospel.
In this house right now: - Apple TV - Two Macbook Airs - Ipad Mini - Original iPod - Two Airport Extremes - Iphone 5S - Burly-as-fuck Mac Pro (the old, good kind) - Mac Mini By the time I bought my first mac I'd built a dozen PCs. My father maintained a network of a thousand of them. The first time I helped swap a hard drive we used a soldering iron. I was running Adaptec SCSI cards when some of their troubleshooting instructions involving checking continuity on traces with a voltmeter. But I bought my first mac 14 years ago so I can safely say I've had my feet in both camps. Apple has gone to shit. Total, utter shit. Yaay. iPad Pro. Can I get a Mac Pro that I can put cards into that will run faster than my eight year old tower that doesn't cost nine thousand dollars? And yeah - I know 60% of their revenue is now phones, and 10% is computers. But I'm really looking forward to Huawei eating their fucking lunch. I'm having to seriously contemplate building a goddamn PC to run Pro Tools. It's f'n ridiculous. The "high end" that used to trickle down? We're just sitting around hoping they open-source OSX and get it over with because sweet baby jesus this is untenable.
Not going to happen, but I bet a few high end audio software vendors throwing developer time or money at GNUStep could get whatever services they need from OsX cloned so they can port elsewhere relatively easily.We're just sitting around hoping they open-source OSX and get it over with because sweet baby jesus this is untenable.
You're not wrong. And the 16 gig price point is bullshit. But again, Apple's got its hands all up on my crotch right now. The only laptop I have is Mac-based and it does not play well with my N5. Google Music? It shits itself on my Mac now. And my Nexus can't hold music for shit when I'm using iTunes, so I have to use my shattered-ass iPod touch to play music, meaning I'm carrying two devices when I should only be using one. Any iPad apps I'm getting now have iPhone equivalents that are wasting away. So on, so forth.
Holy fuck they're STILL selling a 16GB phone? What is this, 2007? Google Music is bullshit on desktop. However, it syncs quite nicely with iTunes. And your Nexus doesn't need to hold anything, as you can stream over wifi (or if you're on TMobile, cellular without charge). There are plenty of iPad apps that don't exist on Android and it is not a seamless experience, but I'm seeing exactly nothing to draw me back in the fold. I haven't even looked at the new thing yet.
Within the definition provided by the Apple Reality Distortion Field. Every Apple (phone/computer/whatever) owner I know has just as many problems as anyone else. iPhone still break and crash. Safari is POS browser, and OSX hangs regularly on older hardware.just works
I read an interesting article a while back (can't find it now sorry) which said that the difference between an iPhone user and an Android user is that when the iPhone has an issue, the person will blame themselves for doing something wrong. Whereas when the Android phone has problems, they'll blame the phone. This is down to a great marketing effort by Apple, and I've seen it in action with my parents and myself. I'm still an Apple fanboy though — everything 'just works' apart from when it doesn't, and that's always because I'm being stupid ;)
I wouldn't ever get personal or hurtful over something this trivial. I just know these conversations tend to get out of control sometimes. And I'm not here to prove anyone wrong. Today certainly didn't display innovation. But to say that Apple isn't or hasn't been an innovative company isn't accurate. Immeasurably? I feel like that's a stretch. Even if you strip out the user experience(which is clearly not for you), hardware specs are measurable. And I don't think the numbers would be THAT far apart. Look. I'm a Mac user. I've probably been considered a fanboy in the past. And like Kleinbl00 above, I've got my share of gripes about the company. I'm not sure your assessment is objective. I'm not here to prove anyone wrong. It comes down to what makes you happy. It's a Ford/Chevy thing.I can't believe people consider Apple innovators
They are so immeasurably behind, yet no matter how much i say this they still make hundreds of millions of dollars...
Oh I don't doubt that at one point Apple was a leader in innovation. I just think that people like to throw that word around when it comes to apple products, and they aren't. Apple does a hell of a job improving on technology that already exists, but they aren't changing the game as many people like to say. This isn't to say that other companies in the same industry are innovating either. This was definitely too much on my part, and was definitely more my gripes with apple. What I really meant to say on this matter is that in the most recent years I've found that a lot of Apple's technology has just been improvements on what already exists. I never go into a Apple Keynote expecting them to change the game in anyway. Like I mentioned before though this a pretty general statement that could made about large portions of the industry as it is right now.Today certainly didn't display innovation. But to say that Apple isn't or hasn't been an innovative company isn't accurate.
Immeasurably? I feel like that's a stretch. Even if you strip out the user experience(which is clearly not for you), hardware specs are measurable. And I don't think the numbers would be THAT far apart.