a thoughtful web.
Good ideas and conversation. No ads, no tracking.   Login or Take a Tour!
comment by fenom
fenom  ·  3370 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Taylor Swift Is Dreaming Of A Very White Africa

I think the alternative is to not make a video about the colonial era at all.





Killerhurtz  ·  3370 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But that would be censorship. Sometimes to make a point you need to make things that may seem wrong. Showcasing things that we aren't proud of reminds us that things weren't always ideal, and that it DID infact happen.

doommaggot  ·  3370 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's a difference between censorship and choosing not to do something because it's a stupid idea.

Killerhurtz  ·  3368 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And there's a difference between a stupid idea and an idea you disagree with. Personally I don't see it as a bad idea.

fenom  ·  3370 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure, that's fine, but should Taylor Swift be making that kind of statement?

Stuff like this needs to be treated really delicately. It's hard to do that in pop music. I haven't seen the video yet, but if the idea is just that it's a love story, why set it in that period at all?

tacocat  ·  3370 days ago  ·  link  ·  

She's not really making a statement. It's just blithely presenting an image at odds with reality and that's kinda the problem.

Killerhurtz  ·  3368 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See, that's where I disagree. Doing things delicately doesn't upset people. It allows them to stay passive. She has a listener base - an audience. It's a perfect platform to do such statements because of how far it reaches. Or are you saying that artists (even pop musicians) should just passively do songs about whatever just to avoid upsetting people?

fenom  ·  3368 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See tacocat's response to me.

Im saying that, if she were to try to make a statement, she should put some thought into it. But she isnt doing that. She's just throwing this romanticized and totally out-of-touch image out there. Hence my first reply where I said she just shouldn't have done it.