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pyrrhonic  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: It's a White Man's Internet

    It baffles me when I hear about "People of Colour only" spaces. Why would you ever want to promote segregation?

Dylann Roof was welcomed with open arms into a black church, and look where that got the churchgoers. The point of black-only, or POC-only, or women-only spaces is to feel a certain level of safety and be able to discuss one's experiences and perspectives without having white people/men dominate the conversation. Usually whites/men do this without even realizing it besause they are just used to their own entitlement.

    There is an argument I see thrown around a lot which concludes that [...] It is impossible for a non-white person to be racist.

I have to agree it'd pretty absurd. Some of the most extreme ugliness I've seen was between Asians and blacks.





RicePaddy  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What Roof did was truly despicable. Nobody will be turned away from a church, and he knew that. It is an example of the work of a twisted, sick individual who is in no way representative of anyone at all.

If you want to use what he did to promote segregation, then you shouldn't be opposed to other people excluding others for similar crimes. For example, in light of many terrorist attacks, should people then exclude Muslims from certain events? Personally, I don't think so. These disasters are the work of terrorists who don't represent any functioning member of the general public at all.

EDIT: With regards to your point about excluding people because they might take over the conversation; that's a fair point that I'll need to think over. I had a conversation with Herunar a little way down there who made the same point. At the moment however, I am unconvinced that the good outweighs the bad in the idea of self-segregation.

pyrrhonic  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My point is that there is a lack of trust among many black Americans about white people entering their spaces. The church shooting crystalized that distrust among a lot of black people I know.

I'm not sure how to explain the categorical difference between a group of black activists excluding whites versus a government or company excluding Muslims from an airplane. Well, one difference is de jure discrimination versus de facto, but even that is not what I'm getting at.

Additionally, the message from a lot of the Black Lives Matter groups has been to encourage white people to form their own auxillary groups to support BLM.

tla  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And it's not because every man does this, or every white person does this.

But eventually you will find those who do, because they'll fucking gravitate towards you so they can.

pyrrhonic  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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