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mk  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Thenewgreen is in my garage.

We got it so Ohio could get Toledo. We won.





WanderingEng  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Exception Michiganders conveniently forget about the UP when they claim Michigan looks like a mitten.

mk  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I almost always do the two hand thing. Unless it's about something specific to the LP.

WanderingEng  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The two hand thing works so well, Keweenaw Peninsula and all. Happily Wisconsin can get by with a single hand. It's a pretty accurate stereotype in Wisconsin for someone to use their hand when explaining a rural location. Is it the same in Michigan?

someguyfromcanada  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Southwest Ontario looks like a trumpeting elephant. I was told this by an Owen Sound resident which is the asshole on that map.

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lil  ·  3395 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I guess I'm moving to the left legpit of that elephant.

someguyfromcanada  ·  3395 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I will totally show you around if you do. I know that area as well as the back of my hand. Better probably. Might even make you lunch, Although it might not be as good as what randomuser and insomniasexx provided.

someguyfromcanada  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Anything over Toledo is a win! JK Never been to Toledo but I have been to Cleveland and it is so nice the Cuyahoga River caught on fire.

The water. Caught on fire.

mk  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

R.E.M.'s Cuyahoga is an incredible song.

Toledo had a very nice museum, and also a glass museum across the street that is well worth visiting.

someguyfromcanada  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

I had completely forgotten about that song! Damn it is almost 30 years old.

Also: Damn you weren't lying.

When the Michigan Territory was first established in 1805, it included only the Lower Peninsula and the eastern portion of the Upper Peninsula. In 1819, the territory was expanded to include the remainder of the Upper Peninsula, all of Wisconsin, and part of Minnesota (previously included in the Indiana and Illinois Territories). When Michigan was preparing for statehood in the 1830s, the boundaries proposed corresponded to the original territorial boundaries, with some proposals even leaving the Upper Peninsula out entirely. Meanwhile, the territory was involved in a border dispute with the state of Ohio in a conflict known as the Toledo War.

The people of Michigan approved a constitution in May 1835 and elected state officials in late autumn 1835. Although the state government was not yet recognized by the United States Congress, the territorial government effectively ceased to exist. A constitutional convention of the state legislature refused a compromise to accept the full Upper Peninsula in exchange for ceding the Toledo Strip to Ohio. A second convention, hastily convened by Governor Stevens Thomson Mason, consisting primarily of Mason supporters, agreed in December 1836 to accept the U.P. in exchange for the Toledo Strip.

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