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comment by insomniasexx
insomniasexx  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000  ·  

Please, no one link to Hubski on reddit right now.



tla  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Quick everyone go and post about voat.

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DJWalnut  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

as I told someone on reddit once, tell your racist friends about voat, tell your non-racist friends about Hubski

you know, Hubski should treat reddit events like the old usenet admins treated september: be very very ban happy for a while so the trolls and other undesired users move on.

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JeanRalphio  ·  3397 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you think it's accurate to define the forums that way? Some people just use em all, I personally don't think these places/people are so one-dimensional, no matter what their ugliest opinions look like. Actually I think the problem with many subreddits/verses (in particular those about personal views like atheism/srs/fph) is the flat and incomplete view of who the users really are.

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tla  ·  3397 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I do, yes.

Hubski wants thoughtful discussion. It is run by mature responsible people and has a community (most of) who prioritize thoughtful discussion.

Voat wants to be the next popular kid and will accept anything and everything without considering the consequences beyond "mah freeze peaches". One consequence being that services they relied on started ditching them.

So yes, while there are some people who use all three, it is quite fair to characterize hubski as the place you recommend to good company, and voat the place you recommend to everyone else.

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steve  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I just woke up my wife laughing so hard.

And I thought of replying "don't worry insom! mk is back from vacation. He can deal with it!"

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betterthanlast  ·  3392 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're not kidding... I mentioned Hubski a couple of times on Reddit a long time ago, but now?

I have a voat account and it predates the fattening, the Victoria/Pao deal, coontown, and all that mess, and I'm starting to dislike voat comments now.

You can definitely notice the change: more downvotes, more dumb jokes that contribute nothing, lower quality comments in general.

My new rule is: Hubski is fight club.

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ooli  ·  3390 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Voat front page become more and more loaded with racist logical fallacies. Hard to read. Voat inscription re opening the day of the coontown ban was really an unfortunate event. Now it seems they own a made-up majority on a site based around democracy.

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betterthanlast  ·  3390 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, and even if you ignore the front page and go straight to subverses you're interested in, sadly the comment quality has really, really gone down, and you do notice the 2 or 3 majority groups dominating the conversation (at the moment I'd say they're probably coontown, fatpeoplehate, and reddit-hate in general, but I've been spending less and less time there, so I could be wrong).

There are also more puns, and more opinions that make you think "you must be 15 and trying to be edgy... or at least, god, I hope you are..."

I've noticed more downvotes for things that don't really take away from the conversation, but are just opinions that someone disagreed with.

For example, I feel like here I could tell you "ooli, I actually love coontown, those are not fallacies, they're enlightened observations" and we would probably never agree on that, but we could exchange views in a fairly civil way. Over there far more reasonable opinions are already starting to get bombed into a crater if they disagree with the general consensus. It's basically turning into a more reddit-like place, which is fine, except for the fact the people flocking to that place claim to be escaping reddit for being filled with basically what they're pushing on voat. It may be coontown and not SRS (or general SJW behavior), but they're still starting to silence dissenters rather than either debating them, or taking a live-and-let-live approach.

That's really a shame because here you won't find me advocating in favor of coontown in particular, but if I do have a personal opinion on anything that disagrees with a more widely accepted general opinion I will probably bring it up, and the beautiful thing about being able to do that is that I'd probably do it less to convert people to my side, and more to try to see why that opinion is not accepted, and to try to understand if it is me who is wrong. If maybe I haven't considered all sides.

I appreciate that about this place. I feel like comments are more thought out and, probably because of that, they're more likely to generate meaningful, constructive debate rather than personal attacks to deflect from having to think too hard about the merits of the argument you're putting forth.

I will say this though, I may not like the changes that voat has been going through, but they do make me appreciate hubski a lot more.

This is a really great place, and I'm grateful to all of you for making it that way.

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user-inactivated  ·  3390 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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user-inactivated  ·  3392 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    My new rule is: Hubski is fight club.

I am very selective about who I will share this site with. I've only told two people about it, thinking they will mesh well with the culture here. Sadly, neither have joined but that's alright. I'll mention this place again down the road.

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betterthanlast  ·  3392 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that's the right way to go about it, to be honest.

Share it with people who will join the community in the right spirit and enrich it, and not mention it to those that you will regret having invited.

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ArtemusBlank  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Besides reddit, what other sites is the link to hubski given on?

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arguewithatree  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I want to see data on whether or not our guerrilla advertising works

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ButterflyEffect  ·  3397 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We need a landing page asking how people got referred here.

All of the options will be sticker pictures.

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user-inactivated  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it'd be hard to calculate, but I think the potential results (a slow, yet steady influx of users) would be much more desirable.

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insomniasexx  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's a post (by me) called "we've had 8,888 visitors from" or something that was data from a mashable article. I'm on my phone and can't find it but google should help.

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briandmyers  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

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insomniasexx  ·  3398 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thank you!!

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ooli  ·  3390 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I feel like Hubski can handle any toxic community. The follow/share system make it compartmentalized, and perhaps more importantly make you more liable of your content. A share is far more personal than an upvote. That's my reasoning for why Hubski seems having far less sharing than any site with vote system will have vote.

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eleitl  ·  3397 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am yet to do so. Every time I consider it, it's either the wrong time, or the wrong community.

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