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I have grown up with ADD and dealt with it all my life and I have never had anything near that happen to me. Tunnel vision happens to us all from time to time but to complete ignore potentially dozens of cars? Then again I think ADD is a cop-out that people use to explain they own shortcomings. That's just me though.





mknod  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

seriously? a medical condition is a cop out? have you ever thought that your ADHD is not as severe as others? that perhaps growing up you were given coping mechanisms that allowed you to deal with your ADHD?

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was really incredibly hyper as a kid. I was not taught coping mechanisms. Pills were thrown at me. Our idea of how to fix hyper children potent patience and learning, is been throw pills at them until something works. One day, when I was 14, I tired of the pills and started learning to control myself. It took some time but eventually I learned how to calm myself. I was on 60 milligrams time release of adderol. From what my doctor said, even he thought it was too much but my mother insisted because I was "unmanageable". Mine isn't as bad as others? I'm sure there are some out there that are worse and have a legitimate problem but ADD and ADHD are often over-diagnosed. There were even a bunch of news articles in the 90's about it.

Yes I think it's a cop-out. Yes I think people need to learn self-control. No I don't think As many people have ADD and ADHD as claim it or are diagnosed with it. It was one of those things that doctors diagnosed like they were giving out candy much like other fad diagnoses.

I, for one, feel much better and less dragged down by big pharma.

mknod  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Did you know that there are specific tests to determine if someone has ADHD and that many doctors require an ADHD coach in conjunction with medication here in the United States? Many of these coaches teach coping mechanisms like ways to stay organized or eat properly or get to bed on time.

My brain and my works don't work the same as your brain and your works, but I still have to live in a society where my mind is different.

I understand the feeling of wanting to classify mental illnesses as something that can be fixed with hard work and determination, also that you have had a bad experience with this topic in particular. However I believe it is an unhealthy attitude to dismiss medical and scientific research based on our personal experience.

Allow me to convey this: I have known many people who take and do not take medication. I am extremely impressed by those who no longer take medication. The amount of discipline they have would drive them to conquer entire continents, if they didn't have to focus so much on having ADHD. For those on the medications, they are working very hard already.

Mental illnesses have a huge stigma please try and stop building these stigmas. Even if you are against children taking medication, which is a fine (and different) position to take, I urge you to remember that people are people that's all they can be.

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You are right. People are people. And whether it is being human or society teaching us to, we very often make excuses for ourselves so we don't have to deal with our own issues. I get what is like to have trouble paying attention. My childhood was riddled with behavioral issues. But I overcame it. Part of the problem isn't the people with the illness either, it's society. Children aren't meant to spend 8 hours a day in a class room being force fed information and be expected to retain it. Adults aren't meant to sit in offices and crunch numbers all day. It's not healthy and their pent up energy has nowhere to go. But we learn to deal with it as best we can.

So... Those studies and scientific findings.. You wanna prove to me that big pharma didn't do the research or have a third party do them? Because without that is useless. Can't tell if it's biased without knowing the source.

Stigma stigma stigma. Regardless of stigma ADD and ADHD are no excuse for causing harm to others. End of story.

On second thought, this isn't really the place for this conversation. If you want to continue this discussion please mail me. We have detracted from the original post.

user-inactivated  ·  3416 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, I was just using ADD as an example. I understand though that for some people, it can be very easy to get distracted or focus elsewhere. That's why they have anti-texting and driving laws in many states.

I'm not saying that this is what necessarily happened to the driver in question, but that's it's not by any means implausible.

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3416 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can certainly agree with you there. Just putting in my 2 cents on ADD. Some people legitimately have difficulties focusing. I just feel it's over used as an excuse and its something we as people need to over come not embrace. Your point still remains valid regardless. And I meant not to insult it demean you in any way.

mknod  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

People with glasses should try seeing better.

People who have difficulties hearing should just listen harder.

You may not have explicitly said these things but to anyone with mental illness this is what they just read.

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You can take my words and twist them to the extreme all you want. Those are not the same thing. They are not even similar.

I have glasses and I don't have the best hearing. People with glasses or those hard of hearing still need to learn to deal with those issues. You can't get into a car crash and blame your sight. Guess what happens when you do (or at least what should happen)? You don't get to drive anymore. If you can't see, you shouldn't be behind a wheel of a vehicle capable of easily killing people. Same with not being able to concentrate. If you can't control your car and make informed decisions while driving you don't get to drive. If you nod off at the wheel on a regular basis, regardless of whether it's a medical issue you shouldn't drive. Public safety. Nuff said.

mknod  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually agree! People with ADHD should have special training for driving a vehicle. As I noted above a person who has ADHD has a 45% higher risk of getting into a car accident than someone without.

It can be very hard to distinguish such things using humans at the DMV though, which is another reason I'd like to see automatic vehicles in widespread use. We should remove the trust from the roads, rage aholics, drunks, and emotionally unstable people are currently out on our freeways. With the automatic vehicles we could be safer with a very small economic cost.

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3415 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm right with you there. It works be so nice to take that daily stress out of ask of our lives. Honestly sometimes i'm in a great mood, leave for work, by the time I'm there my day is shot and I now spend a couple hours getting myself in a better mood. All because some people have no common sense or decency. Automation would ease me blood pressure for sure!

Also. Glad that though we disagree on some fundamentals we can agree on the greater picture. I love you Hubsky!

user-inactivated  ·  3416 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nah. I know what you meant. I just took the opportunity to further clarify. It's cool.

SadPandaIsSad  ·  3416 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah, no harm then : D